<call#> do we want it?

[Rowyne]

As many others said, I don't think <call#> is needed.
There are other much more effective ways in making sure everyone is ready for content. If someone is not there for a long time, there is a pretty good reason for it and "calling" him would be pointless. Also, you'd want to get a replacement for that person anyway.

So, no thanks.
A /readycheck or /away <message> would be more effective and less disturbing.
If call get implemented, it definitely need a turn off option in the sound menu (I want to enjoy the music, not a whistle chorale).

Well said. Calls were amusing in FFXI... for about the first two weeks. Then everyone started putting them in all their macros. Pull macros, provoke macros, weaponskill macros. Oh, our healer died in the Dunes and we're waiting on a Raise cause their home point is set on the other side of the world... so bored... <call1> <call5> <call8> !!!1!

Watch The Adventures Of Finsternis And Prufrock Episode 1 if you are not familiar with calls or if you need a reminder of how annoying they are.

I'd much prefer something like WoW's ready check, which is generally not abused like calls.

[Headhunters]

i want calls back, they were usefull on XI

[Kiroh]

[Mamba]

No I think its annoying. Most everyone plays with vent or some other voip program now so it not really needed.

Well first of all, I know way more people who don't use voice chat that people who do. It tends to be people with more "end game" orientation who use vent etc.
I pop on vent if we're doing something really hard/important/for the first time but most of the times I prefer to keep my conversation in the chatlog.

2ndly, I find <call> quite useful but like many have said, not the insanely loud ring or fog horn that will give you a permanent afro.
In FFXI things like skill chains and Magic bursts were informed by <calls> and it was also really useful when someone was pulling (as someone else mentioned before).
How about when you have to kill two ants in different room at the same time? Wouldn't it be handy to have a <call> for the kill?
Just an example.

If the sound was adjustable I think it would be very welcome feature in any kind of situation.

[ChiefCurrahee]

How about when you have to kill two ants in different room at the same time? Wouldn't it be handy to have a <call> for the kill?
Just an example.

If the sound was adjustable I think it would be very welcome feature in any kind of situation.

No let's put in a ready check
/sarcasm

Everyone that is so PC interfance oriented, remember that we'll be playing along side PS3 players in the near future. Will a pop up window for a ready check be easily navigated and unobtrusive enough for someone on the PS3?

[Mychael]

Well said. Calls were amusing in FFXI... for about the first two weeks. Then everyone started putting them in all their macros. Pull macros, provoke macros, weaponskill macros. Oh, our healer died in the Dunes and we're waiting on a Raise cause their home point is set on the other side of the world... so bored... <call1> <call5> <call8> !!!1!

You're right. This happened in a couple Dunes parties I was in. You know what happened? Some 'leetist jerk (such as myself ) told them to "please remove it." And they did.

The 15-year-olds who abuse it are fairly easy to correct, or simply kick if they think that <call> is crucial to their macro.

[HamHam]

Well first of all, I know way more people who don't use voice chat that people who do. It tends to be people with more "end game" orientation who use vent etc.
I pop on vent if we're doing something really hard/important/for the first time but most of the times I prefer to keep my conversation in the chatlog.

2ndly, I find <call> quite useful but like many have said, not the insanely loud ring or fog horn that will give you a permanent afro.
In FFXI things like skill chains and Magic bursts were informed by <calls> and it was also really useful when someone was pulling (as someone else mentioned before).
How about when you have to kill two ants in different room at the same time? Wouldn't it be handy to have a <call> for the kill?
Just an example.

If the sound was adjustable I think it would be very welcome feature in any kind of situation.

I agree with everything you said. It seems there are a few here who think <call> is just a ready check feature. There are other situations where <call> would be helpful. ex: During Ifrit eruptions. Some of us were able to see the eruptions b4 others could, with a <call> feature, perhaps it would have save a lot of headaches. (yes, I know eruptions lag was due to how SE servers behave, something that will be retify with 2.0), but just saying...

[Molly_Millions]

You're right. This happened in a couple Dunes parties I was in. You know what happened? Some 'leetist jerk (such as myself ) told them to "please remove it." And they did.

The 15-year-olds who abuse it are fairly easy to correct, or simply kick if they think that <call> is crucial to their macro.

^^ this

/10char

[AmandaHuggenkiss]

(yes, I know eruptions lag was due to how SE servers behave, something that will be retify with 2.0)

Actually the eruption lag was client side.
Even those in Japan had to deal with it.

[leomax]

I went back to XI a month ago and I would like to see this implemented in ARR.