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    Of curious note is how the English version of this game calls midlanders "Hyur" but the other versions call them "Hyuran". Someone suggested this was because of our tendency in English to associate -an as an adjective, so it was shortened to "hyur". I still think "Hyuran" sounds better, but then again I'm not monolingual so I can see beyond the -an thing :< lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    Of curious note is how the English version of this game calls midlanders "Hyur" but the other versions call them "Hyuran". Someone suggested this was because of our tendency in English to associate -an as an adjective, so it was shortened to "hyur". I still think "Hyuran" sounds better, but then again I'm not monolingual so I can see beyond the -an thing :< lol
    Hyuran Hyur..


    I think its probably a good choice to go Hyur - there is a structure to English (though my wife tells me it is not obvious lol). I'd agree it sounds like an adjective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    Of curious note is how the English version of this game calls midlanders "Hyur" but the other versions call them "Hyuran". Someone suggested this was because of our tendency in English to associate -an as an adjective, so it was shortened to "hyur". I still think "Hyuran" sounds better, but then again I'm not monolingual so I can see beyond the -an thing :< lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Hyuran Hyur..


    I think its probably a good choice to go Hyur - there is a structure to English (though my wife tells me it is not obvious lol). I'd agree it sounds like an adjective.
    I think this is a rather ambiguous case that could swing either way.

    I'll provide the example of describing someone who lives in Asia as an 'asian'. In every strictest sense it probably is unequivocally considered an adjective that modifies the implied word 'person', but so often the 'person' is dropped and 'asian' sort of takes on the role of full blown noun it may as well be considered one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myranda View Post
    I think this is a rather ambiguous case that could swing either way.

    I'll provide the example of describing someone who lives in Asia as an 'asian'. In every strictest sense it probably is unequivocally considered an adjective that modifies the implied word 'person', but so often the 'person' is dropped and 'asian' sort of takes on the role of full blown noun it may as well be considered one.

    Asian, Asia. Hyuran, Hyur.


    In this case then you would need Hyur as a word. There is a lot of crossing and growth in the language but the often invisible structure helps lend ideas to the words that I dont think should be ignored..


    Since Hyurans wouldn't be from Hyur its not exactly the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Asian, Asia. Hyuran, Hyur.


    In this case then you would need Hyur as a word. There is a lot of crossing and growth in the language but the often invisible structure helps lend ideas to the words that I dont think should be ignored..


    Since Hyurans wouldn't be from Hyur its not exactly the same.
    In that use, "Hyur" is a place. If you wanna get all technical, those races aren't races at all, but species. The clans would be the races.

    So in real life we are human. There is no adjective form for human. "That structure over there is human-an" doesn't sound right. Human is the species just like how Hyur = species, and the midlanders and highlanders are races of that species. Humans have a bunch of races.

    That would also mean, that species can't mate with each other. Hyur's can't have babies with lalafells for example, but highlanders CAN have babies with midlanders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    In that use, "Hyur" is a place. If you wanna get all technical, those races aren't races at all, but species. The clans would be the races.

    So in real life we are human. There is no adjective form for human. "That structure over there is human-an" doesn't sound right. Human is the species just like how Hyur = species, and the midlanders and highlanders are races of that species. Humans have a bunch of races.

    That would also mean, that species can't mate with each other. Hyur's can't have babies with lalafells for example, but highlanders CAN have babies with midlanders.

    Wait, what were we talking about? *puts on summoner horn and summon the Great and Powerful Ferne!*
    Arguably, they are races in the sense that we are the Human Race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    In that use, "Hyur" is a place. If you wanna get all technical, those races aren't races at all, but species. The clans would be the races.

    So in real life we are human. There is no adjective form for human. "That structure over there is human-an" doesn't sound right. Human is the species just like how Hyur = species, and the midlanders and highlanders are races of that species. Humans have a bunch of races.

    That would also mean, that species can't mate with each other. Hyur's can't have babies with lalafells for example, but highlanders CAN have babies with midlanders.

    Wait, what were we talking about? *puts on summoner horn and summon the Great and Powerful Ferne!*
    Yeah thats what I said, Hyur isnt a place so Hyuran doesn't really flow imo. We are humans (a species that includes races), but we dont have words for races that doesnt have to also do with location. Asians are from asia, Asian Americans .. bla bla.

    Hyur is a race, not a species (and has no special location input, like Hyuran from Hyur(land) lol).
    edit: actually its a species but we call it a race in game.. lol so further confusion if you used race naming of a species more convoluted =wewt edit=

    Point being using the -an would be convoluted compared to not using it (imo :P).
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