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    Hyur = Hire
    Elezen = Elle - zen
    Lalafell = La - la -fell
    Roegadyn = Row - ga - din
    Miqo'te = Me - co - tay

    My own pronunciations. hehe

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    Hume = Hugh - em
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    Tarutaru - Tar - oo - tar - oo
    Galka = Gal - ka
    Mithra - Myth - ra
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    Yeah that's why I'm not too confused over the change anymore. It's something that to me, as a bilingual speaker, didn't really stand out. But it actually makes some sense when reviewing the structure and patterns of English.
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    An Asian is just one race of the same being, though. "Hyur" is meant to be "humans" in the fantasy world. "Midlander" and "Highlander" would be the "Asians" of this world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilhem View Post
    An Asian is just one race of the same being, though. "Hyur" is meant to be "humans" in the fantasy world. "Midlander" and "Highlander" would be the "Asians" of this world.
    That's true, but I was just looking for a quick example word that would use the same suffix type, not really considering where it fits in the breakdown of race vs. nationality.

    'Human' can also be used as both a noun and adjective (granted it doesn't get modified in any way to do so), which is more the point I'm trying to make. I'm not an English/language major by any means, but to me it could swing both ways, depending on if a noun is implied or not.
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    Hyur - SA
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    Roegadyn- ....
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    "Human Race" is a nice way of saying Human Species. "Human Race" means you include all the races of the Human species. Human is not a race but a collection of races that form one species.

    "This development will change the Miqo'te race" = "This development will change the Seekers of the Sun and Keepers of the Moon." It should be "This development will change the Miqo'te Species".

    I dunno if that helped your case or hindered it. Sorry being that guy, but my background is Science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    "Human Race" is a nice way of saying Human Species. "Human Race" means you include all the races of the Human species. Human is not a race but a collection of races that form one species.

    "This development will change the Miqo'te race" = "This development will change the Seekers of the Sun and Keepers of the Moon." It should be "This development will change the Miqo'te Species".

    I dunno if that helped your case or hindered it. Sorry being that guy, but my background is Science.
    Human Race should be human species, because there are multiple races within human (or you could say human races, but human itself isnt a race - just that there are many races within human group). So I dont think it hindered it at all. Saying human race, while race is a subgroup of humankind its a really weird and non-technical usage though I guess some use it (I've always said human species).

    Just so you know I edited my other post, was confusing myself.

    Hyur - species, then race. However calling Hyur a race (because thats what they are called in game) will mean that saying he is a Hyuran race, which refers to the Asia, Asian issue I brought up. But the fact of the matter is its a species, and we are all screwed up lol. So dont call it a Hyuran because when we incorrectly call it a race with the race type naming style (-an) it will refer to a location (Asian/Asia). (or just change "pick your race" to pick your "species")

    Unless SE is trying to say that there is a parent species to all the races - which would be willd... also means we could interbreed though it still means dont use the -an because in normal structure -an would lead to a non -an form for location.
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    You english speaking people and the way you struggle trying to write down how you pronounce words always makes me giggle
    Saying that coming from a language where you spell stuff just as you write it. Oh, be the great wovel shift cursed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilan View Post
    You English speaking people and the way you struggle trying to write down how you pronounce words always makes me giggle
    Saying that coming from a language where you spell stuff just as you write it. Oh, be the great wovel shift cursed.
    Even if you reformatted all of English to follow a phonetic it would still change over time and you'd need new phonetics later (languages change over time).


    Japanese isn't void of this problem (I'm assuming you speak Japanese or some non Indo-European based language).


    I don't really know much of the language but I know there are some oddities with "su" sometimes pronounced sometimes not (masu vs desu (sounds like "dess" to a non-native speaker)). Give any language enough time in a natural environment and it will mutate. Other examples I remember (from one class of japanese) ha is written but pronounced wa. He is more so said e.


    Just googled pitch, thanks to wikipedia one example:


    [háɕì] vs [hàɕí] vs [hàɕí]


    I think the last one is haji, but the first two I know are hashi but are indeed pronounced slightly different. And we havent even included the different accents of Japan.
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