Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
The full edge is unknown right now but having chores to gather materials, being able to sell more at a time, and being able to hold more does indeed lend an edge.


You can argue its for the good of the company but I guess I don't really care. I'm not a fan of out of subscription cost edges. And while its not a huge win its still p2w, not like you are suggesting.


If you get benefit outside of normal game means, its p2w sell. You can argue that expansions are p2w as well :P, but they are generally accepted for their mass amount of content added (unlike say buying exclusive ability packs or double exp tokens).

Like I said a bit ago I'm against p2w but if there was one to be had I'd be least upset about one that had content obtainable in the game that isnt useful in winning (like mounts) that you could also rush acquire through money. So say WoW's exclusive unicorn mount could be gained through a long quest chain or you could just buy it - something similar to LoL's payment system where it really doesn't matter.

I appreciate your values, I actually dislike P2W with a passion to and believe there always needs to be an in game alternative. I've played League of Legends and it's not my kind of game but I'm familiar with their payment method and the sales they have on putting discounts on certain characters every so often to get ppl to buy them.

To me retainers only sell what you earn in game. Having more slots to sell or store stuff isn't a game changing edge. At least I don't see it that way.

I suppose you would be happier if like in XI, they had quests for gobbie bags which would expand your retainer inventory and player inventory a moderate size. Then you could either earn it in game or buy it! However, one can not expand upon the other. where as If you pay for the storage and then do the quest you can't get the storage benefits of the quest and the retainers.

And I only say pay for retainers because that is how 1.0 was setup. They have neither said Yay, or Nay about paying for retainers for 2.0. So we shall see.