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Welp, read the whole thread. T'was fun.

What started bugging me, is the origin of the Primals. I mean, sure, some of them bursted out the aetherstream when Midgarsormr took down Agrius and broke the seal under the lake. But then i remember seeing a cutscene (Legends Adrift) with Sisipu, who said:



So, it would seem that Leviathan was a "gift" from one of the twelve daities. Taking a guess at the time of Leviathan's "birth", the beginning of the Sixth Umbral era was the era of Water. in Wikia, it is described as follows: "Severe flooding caused the submersion and damage of many parts of Eorzea." Which makes Sisipu's story sound awfully convenient, considering it happened almost 16 centuries ago.

So i started wondering, "are other primals the same? If so, why were they given to us?" Then i noticed that 5th era was of Ice, which might refer to Shiva being "born". But it would collide with Sisipu's story of the earth being all "fire and rocks", which would be 3rd and 4th umbral eras, thus creating Ifrit and Titan, respectively. 2nd era is of lightning/Ramuh, and the lastly the first umbral era is of wind/Garuda.

Naturally, i can't pinpoint Odin, Bahamut and King Moggle anywhere, as they don't seem to have an elemental alignment. Which kinda makes me think, that they'd be somehow superior or rogue, or the elder primals. Not to mention the possible primal status of the already speculated Siren.


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While taking a quick reflection of era's i started thinking that maybe each era marked a born of a new primal, which resulted in a chaos or another, thus starting a new era. Was each following birth of a primal only trying to set a balance for the previous ones?
The Twelve may indeed be who made the Primals. As for Primals being born to each Umbral era, I think it'd be really iffy. The Umbral eras are more likely caused by "man" (collectively here) than the Primals. The First Umbral was indeed Wind but the history that we have, what caused the Umbral era was the Twelve leaving because the wandering tribes began to war with each other, ruining the peace. We don't know who these wandering tribes are yet, the only 2 possible choices for 'native' Eorzeans are Hellsguard Roegydan and Elezen. Other races came way later on in time.

As I stated in my timeline, I believe the Fifth and Sixth Umbral eras coincided with each other. Ice melts and causes the Flooding. As for the Third Umbral and Fourth Umbral, we don't know when Bahamut was sealed exactly. The imprisonment of Bahamut could have gave rise to the Allagan Empire or it could have brought on the destruction or atleast the downfall of them when the Fourth Umbral hit. So atleast Bahamut can be associated with 1 or 2 of the Umbral Eras, but there's no hint of any other Primals causing the other Umbral Eras. They're strong, but I don't think they're strong enough to usher in total destruction in Eorzea or let alone the rest of the planet. We also know that Primals aren't just in Eorzea, but have halted the Garlean's advancement in other parts of the world. So it's not like they're entirely special.

Also it's hinted that Urianger or the Archons were responsible for the Sixth Umbral Era. So I'm still more inclined to think it's 'mans' fault. Pissing off the Twelve which makes them leave Eorzea and ushers in the First Umbral, then the hints of Urianger causing the Sixth Umbral (even though I think the Ice melts from the Fifth Umbral caused the waters to rise, but they still could have played some part).