CG Midlander

[Judge_Xero]

Thanks OP for starting the Thread.
- "Mind is Blown" - Loving this Lore!!!

I can't say I paid much attention to that then, but this was probably in the game before the whole Dalamud idea came to be, so I highly doubt it initially represented the sealing ritual.

What if Dalamud was always meant to be? Depending on how they are interpreted, there seems to be sublte hints all over that indicate, all that has come to pass was already written.

What if the "Past" was meant to fail? So a shining new future could reign under the watch of a powerful ruler. In a world that was recreated by the people, for the people.

[Orophin]

@Fernehalwes: Thanks for posting that, good read. Too bad you can't tell us more (yet)

Which quest is that from? I don't remember anything like this (Gridanian here)

Travanchet was from the Limsa Lominsan storyline, and that image was taken from the quest "Never Shall the Twain Meet", which was the last quest in the series before being scooted off to Ul'Dah to start the Path of the Twelve quests.

After analyzing the progression of quests in the original storyline, I wonder if their original vision was to layout the quests in the manner that FFXI did. By that I mean, you do about three ranks worth of missions for your home city, learn about the greater threat which is the Shadow Lord, then once he's defeated, go back to helping out your home city.

The feeling of incompleteness of your main city's storyline reflects this I think. The formula it followed was:

Do stuff pertaining to your home city
Learn about the Garlean threat, which was really never concluded since Gaius whooped some ass (Path of the Twelve)
(Incomplete step) Go back and deal with whatever was going on in home city. In the case of Limsa Lominsa, learn more about the Ascians and the Sahagin.

At least that's the way I felt it was going to play out.

[Gemma]

Archon?!

According to the Urianger Augurelt page:

Ferne also brought up in his post about the girl from the easter event that dreamt of the Archons.

"Do you believe that the Archons are avatars of the Twelve because a crazy girl with spriggan friends dreamt it was true?"

Well Ferne, yes I do as a matter of fact you sneaky dog you. Considering I remember a post on the lodestone after that event ended talking about 2 shadowy figures talking by the Black Tea River in Gridania. A man and a woman in cloaks.

(Here is the link to the post)
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...7a79886c41f7d4

(And the link explaining the event if you weren't here last year.)
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...7b883f35793d55

So yes Ferne, I do believe that crazy kitty ^_^

[Keyln]

Here's my question:

Does the CG Midlander have a name, and what is it?

[Alaltus]

Here's my question:

Does the CG Midlander have a name, and what is it?

Lets see... hocus pocus revealus namus!

Dun dun duuuuun

Amanda Hugginkyss

Just Kidding =P

[Anonymoose]

How does a guildleve allow me to "breach the wall of a person's soul?" Whenever I use the echo, the person I'm using it on is physically present.

I've pondered over this quite a bit, myself. I only have three possible assumptions, and perhaps one day we'll see which is right. Here they are in the order of increasing likelihood:

• This is a very old leve card, the very same one taken to fight the marbol. It carries this powerful memory on it. (Not likely, as it's a Limsa Lominsa leve card. But you never know. Maybe the faction'd it out.)
• A member of the 10 Years Ago Party was recently at The Drowning Wench and decided to see the available quests. Upon seeing his card, he had a flashback to this powerful member, which was then transferred to the card, which then triggers the Midlander's echo. (Little more likely, at least sounds possible.)
• A member of the 10 Years Ago Party is right behind the Midlander having a drink and he never realizes it. (The only thing that seems to directly follow the lore.)

Who exactly is Louisoix? Can it be that he is a manifestation of Thaliak?

At first I had assumed that everyone in the Circle of Knowing was an Archon, and that crazy spriggan girl's assessment of Archons was at least somewhat right on. However, it's still possible that only Louisoix and Urianger are; they're the only ones with facial tattoos, and the word Archon isn't even breathed around the others unless in reference to the other two, and those two are referred to by the title directly, "THE ARCHON Urianger" and "THE ARCHON Louisoix"

As stated above, the Hatching-tide archon summoning was purposely stopped by a hooded woman with a male associate ... Y'shtola and Thancred preparing for the arrival of the true Archon(s)? We know Papalymo and Ypa are often doing their own thing; and they're not so much people of consideration as people of talent. They don't say anything profound or come to any great conclusions (though they are well-informed), but come the first showdown with Gaius van Baelsar, she's the only member of the party who manages to land a blow against him.

Also I just noticed that the translation of the Hatching-tide post says SKYkin and not CLOUDkin when referring to that dodo. SOMEONE'S IN TROUBLE.

Does the CG Midlander have a name, and what is it?

I'd assume they all have to have names, and it's been driving me nuts not knowing. It's just a matter of IF A THEN B. These cinematics have scripts. How do these scripts differentiate between them? Does it say "THE MIDLANDER SAYS" and then "THE ELEZEN REPLIES" (much like my own lore write-up)?

It would be interesting if it did mention clans labels, because the clans aren't represented canonically. This cinematic was made at a time when the subtle differences (ear size, war paint, pupils) were not decided on, but there was a clear binary* (even clearer than we have now). This binary was made a little less black and white over time, and the CG members do not reflect this. These elezen have giant ears, something that only the Duskwight should have, but they lack the blue complexion and tattoos associated with Duskwight at that time. The miqo'te has the complexion and pupils of a Seeker of the Sun but the warpaint worn by Keepers of the Moon.

However, you have to admit, they might just have silly everyday code-names around the office. The script could just call for Hiroshi and Akira to do this while little lalafell Reiko does that... While this doesn't seem likely with SE's depth of lore, it's still possible that they had a conversation equivalent to, "What do we call them in the script?" "I don't know. Bob? He looks like a Bob." and then flash forward to planning The End of an Era, "Okay, Bob's gonna do Steel Cyclone."

* See below
Duskwight = Blue, Wildwood = Tan
Sea Wolf = Green, Hellsguard = Red
Seekers of the Sun = Tan, Keepers of the Moon = Blue
Midlander = Scrawny, Highlander = Stacked
Plainsfolk = Fair/No Gems, Dunesfolk = Tan/Gems.

[Majoga]

At first I had assumed that everyone in the Circle of Knowing was an Archon, and that crazy spriggan girl's assessment of Archons was at least somewhat right on. However, it's still possible that only Louisoix and Urianger are; they're the only ones with facial tattoos, and the word Archon isn't even breathed around the others unless in reference to the other two, and those two are referred to by the title directly, "THE ARCHON Urianger" and "THE ARCHON Louisoix"

If those were the only 2 Archons no wonder why resealing Bahamut didn't work.... speaking of which where the hell was Urianger during all of this? Personally I still like to think as the other 4 as Archons since they still have the neck tattoos although there was no indication of this. It could just be that they're members of the Circle of Knowing, but the fact their tats turned white during the prayers and I feel they were more than that (especially with their performance during "Future's Perfect").

Even if that is the case that'd be 6 known Archons, perhaps the other 6 might have been needed to complete the ritual?

[Warlock]

Here's my question:

Does the CG Midlander have a name, and what is it?

I checked the first CGI intro again and there are no names they are only called from they come from.
the Elezen calls the hyur Midlander...and the Roegadyn calls him Lass

[Warlock]

If those were the only 2 Archons no wonder why resealing Bahamut didn't work.... speaking of which where the hell was Urianger during all of this? Personally I still like to think as the other 4 as Archons since they still have the neck tattoos although there was no indication of this. It could just be that they're members of the Circle of Knowing, but the fact their tats turned white during the prayers and I feel they were more than that (especially with their performance during "Future's Perfect").

Even if that is the case that'd be 6 known Archons, perhaps the other 6 might have been needed to complete the ritual?

Maybe Louisoix asked him as a favor to stay safe and wait for our arrival so he could be our mentor .
Or he shows up at the end of End of an Era trailer in front of Louisoix with Odin (Loui sent Urianger to convince Odin to take action as Bahamut blowing up everything is no good for Odin)

[Raagnar]

I checked the first CGI intro again and there are no names they are only called from they come from.
the Elezen calls the hyur Midlander...and the Roegadyn calls him Lass

lol hes not calling the midlander lass.

Elezen female: Look out! he's right on top of us!
Roegadyn: Move lass, move!