A Little Pain with my Pleasure

[Shougun]

Stop bringing up WoW we all know by now that most of you have a game boner for it. This is Final Fantasy last time I checked. I could care less about what they did good. SE can do way better than Blizzard and has on many games. Diablo 3 failed just as hard maybe harder than ffxiv did at launch.

Actually I'd say FFXIV release failed harder lol - I knew no one that liked FFXIV. I knew a small handful that liked Diablo 3. I think FFXIV has risen much better though.

Beyond that, Yoshida himself has said that he is looking towards the new games and the past great games and whether you like it or not WoW permanently nailed itself into that great hall.

I'm sure no one here wants a WoW copy with a FF skin but that doesnt mean you cant look at systems that work, and work better, and why- then improve. Not doing that is foolish.

[Zehira]

Stop bringing up WoW we all know by now that most of you have a game boner for it. This is Final Fantasy last time I checked. I could care less about what they did good. SE can do way better than Blizzard and has on many games. Diablo 3 failed just as hard maybe harder than ffxiv did at launch.

Forget WoW and Diablo 3, I am a causal player and I want more hard modes. I think if you want to play XIV just for the story then all story missions should be on easy modes just for completing it even if you want better rewards then hard mode it is.

It's just my opinion.

[Hulan]

Stop bringing up WoW we all know by now that most of you have a game boner for it. This is Final Fantasy last time I checked. I could care less about what they did good. SE can do way better than Blizzard and has on many games. Diablo 3 failed just as hard maybe harder than ffxiv did at launch.

I really don't like WoW. It wasn't my cup of tea. I played it for a while but couldn't really get myself to keep playing until the real game started (I never made it to end game, which really disqualifies me from saying much about the game at all, but the very fact that I couldn't make it to end game says something by itself).

With all that said, discarding a good idea just because a more popular game did it is just as silly - if not more so - as using a bad idea just because a more popular game used it. While there are a lot of things I do not like about the way WoW played, I can respect a lot of the design decisions, and I think having a conversation about which of those aspects would work for FFXIV will never be a bad thing.

[Wolfie]

Stop bringing up WoW we all know by now that most of you have a game boner for it. This is Final Fantasy last time I checked. I could care less about what they did good. SE can do way better than Blizzard and has on many games. Diablo 3 failed just as hard maybe harder than ffxiv did at launch.

Is that why FFXIV had under 20k active users even when it was free?

[fusional]

Is that why FFXIV had under 20k active users even when it was free?

how dare you! people on this forum are allergic to facts. you might kill him!

You're just pouring gasoline on a fire.

gasoline made of distilled ignorance.

[Pseudopsia]

Stop bringing up WoW we all know by now that most of you have a game boner for it. This is Final Fantasy last time I checked. I could care less about what they did good. SE can do way better than Blizzard and has on many games. Diablo 3 failed just as hard maybe harder than ffxiv did at launch.

You're just pouring gasoline on a fire.

[ispano]

I played it for maybe a couple months and that was enough for me but I could care less about that trash. I had 4 relics in FFXI but im not bragging or anything. Now that was an accomplishement that I hope they bring back in ARR just without the huge time sink.

Normally I'd be one of the first to say you don't necessarily have to experience something to understand it. However, that's not an ironclad rule. You can guesstimate (WTF Guesstimate is a word? It didn't Correct it) many things and understand many things without doing them, some however, you cannot.

I won't claim to say how difficult XI was, but I've been in every single one of those instances Fusional listed. I didn't complete them all, most, but not all. It's not a walk in the park. So you can call it trash all you want, but it doesn't mean anything to anyone except "He doesn't like WoW". I don't like it much anymore either, but I have the experience so I have some semblance of what I'm talking about.