PvP decision. What do you say to PvE implement content?

[Lady]

I want EvE.... Forest vs Desert action! Yes, please!

sorry, have an hour left of work, and the clock seems to be ticking backwards

[Phe]

So after it has become fashionable obviously, for the English forum simply to seek only the google translator, I do it.

I think the game needs both - PvP and PvE.
the manner in which it is then made is critical.

[Feln]

The game has all of the elements to make a really nice fitting PvPvE element. Aion, despite the direction it eventually went, had some really good elements with their Abyss-PVP, and how the NPC faction could get involved right in the middle of a brawl between the factions.

It's definitely going to take a gentle tread to kick PVP off in the right direction, but I feel confident that they're taking notes from games that have/are done/doing balance-and-changes correctly. Have a little faith.

(If it turns out this all goes belly up, I will deny having ever said that.)

[Colino]

How did some of you actually figure out what OP said?

[Kallera]

How did some of you actually figure out what OP said?

Must be that forum decoder ring that got lost in 1.0. I appreciate the attempt though.

[strallaalaa]

pvp gets boring fast for me. i loved warhammer even with it's faults and failure. it was my first all pvp mmo. i think that is how it should go. pve mmo's and separate pvp mmo's. i feel that mmo's that are pve usually add pvp to compensate for lack of good pve too. so both are mediocre. but it can still be fun to have in any mmo to a point. any pvp in these mmo's is like a shooter. after few months of playing hardcore your done with it and want a totally new game. but a fully focused game that is pvp done right would be great.

in the case of ffxiv having pvp. i think they are adding it just to have it like other mmo's have it. also they are doing what i fear most and trying to compensate for lack of pve. they will let you get to max level in few weeks and then think hey you can do pvp over and over while we wait months and months for new content. no no no. /quit is will be what happens in this case, for this mmo. so that is what i think of pvp in pve games, they can't use it as an excuse to remove grinds and slow leveling and dynamic play from beginning to the end.

[Nuinn]

How did some of you actually figure out what OP said?

Keywords /nod

Sometimes all it takes is one word, PvP, PvE. . . . and people will construct their own discussions around those words.

[Kraggy]

I loathe PVP and never do it, I wish PVP and PVE never mixed, because when they do the PVE game suffers due to endless PVP QQing leading to never-ending class changes as 'OP' skills get nerfed to pander to the PVP 1v1er whining.

Read the forums of WOW, Rift, LOTRO (which has a weird form of PVP which even so yields endless QQ) and others, the largest proportion on whining comes from PVPers complaining such and such a class is OP, which in turns leads to a never-ending stream of class changes trying [and failing spectacularly] to balance classes in PVP while treating the PVE game as collateral damage.

[Nuinn]

I loathe PVP and never do it, I wish PVP and PVE never mixed, because when they do the PVE game suffers due to endless PVP QQing leading to never-ending class changes as 'OP' skills get nerfed to pander to the PVP 1v1er whining.

Read the forums of WOW, Rift, LOTRO (which has a weird form of PVP which even so yields endless QQ) and others, the largest proportion on whining comes from PVPers complaining such and such a class is OP, which in turns leads to a never-ending stream of class changes trying [and failing spectacularly] to balance classes in PVP while treating the PVE game as collateral damage.

I don't like PvP, in general, but I loooved LotRO PvP, playing on the opposite side as a Warg :3 It was actually fun biting my friends' asses who were playing on their main chars All-Warg party? Yes, please! >:]

[Xatsh]

I do not mind PvP in games, what angers me is PvP effecting PvE in anyway.

Balancing skills/abilities for another player with 3k hp and a boss with 120k hp are very different and near impossible to do. Game that change the dmg output or effect of a spell because it is OP in pvp tend to just annoy me to no end.

PvP should exist but in a different arena then PvE with its own unique rule set. Balancing PvP is good but not at the expense of PvE. PvE > PvP in a Final Fantasy. An Ability should never be changed in PvE because it is OP in PvP.