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  1. #41
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    They need to nuke the NA forums only region with like 7000+ useless topics.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by moriandrio View Post
    Ya i did, and the topic is about to unbann everybody and this would be dumb. And just cause the banned person say he didn't do anything it doesn't means he it was like that. Cause banned ppl always say that...

    There might maybe a few cases where ppl got banned cause of mistakes but that is no reason to unbann everybody...
    How would it effect you negatively other than having to read a troll thread every now and again? Which they would be banned again within days so what is the issue? New beginning for SE should be a new beginning for all players period, unless they had their entire account banned for cheating and that's a different story altogether. Rein, no they didn't give a reason other than doing the same thing that caused the temporary ban. Which would have been calling someone mentally challenged, though this was literally impossible because he was in the middle of timed ban. He received a second email stating that they were terminating his forum privileges for repeating the same action.
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  3. #43
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    How is it not fair for a basically brand new forums to have a ban list already established based on soon to be archived comments that will not apply to the new forums unless you pull something up and re-post it? New start should not only apply to the game but for all the people who pay to play. (Not referring to removing a game ban, just forums solely for people who can still play the game)
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    Last edited by -S-a-g-e; 01-18-2013 at 06:37 AM.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Did you even read the topic dude?

    The person in question already got their warning/temp ban, and then got a permanent ban after the temp one expired despite having done nothing.
    Except SE states very clearly when you get temp banned they investigate further and will take further action on the account. I would say if you remember this but you stated you only played XI till about level 20 and quit or something...

    But for those that remember this that have played XI:

    Remember when the Salvage exploit was around and people were getting banned left and right and swore up and down they did nothing despite the fact those who have done nothing weren't banned? You never get the full story especially if the person has done something. The fact he was temp banned in the first place means something was done and likely had a history of it. You break the rules you get punished, it's as simple as that.
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  5. #45
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    Anyways my point of all along has been new game, new people, newer forums to some degree, new chance should be in there. Especially if they will have an active account and pay to play then they should be entitled for a new beginning just like everyone else whether some agree and some don't.

    Someone wants to use criminals as example? A lot of criminals are given parole and that is the same as a second chance. All players who fit into the guidelines deserve a chance of parole even if they are put on a probational period for their second chance. There is absolutely nothing lost by giving them a chance so why deny them? They were banned from 1.0 forums for reason whether good or bad and served their 1.0 sentence until 1.0 forums go down and 2.0 forums come up. 2.0 Forums starting fresh and new they should start fresh and new with their second chance on probation and as I said before Win-Win. These players have some of their faith restored in SE by receiving a second chance, SE wins because it is part of their goal to restore faith in their customers and more activity on the forums at launch.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Banned users don't deserve another chance. sorry.
    Everybody deserves a second chance. Mistake are made to be corrected, like SE has made mistakes. Aren't you and many like us giving SE a second chance with ARR after the mistakes they made with 1.0? It would be hypocritical of them not to do the same to those that continue to pay and support them with there second chance.
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    Last edited by Titans; 01-18-2013 at 07:23 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titans View Post
    Everybody deserves a second chance. Mistake are made to be corrected, like SE has made mistakes. Aren't you and many like us giving SE a second chance with ARR after the mistakes they made with 1.0? It would be hypocritical of them not to do the same to those that continue to pay and support them with there second chance.
    SE doesn't perma ban if you're on a "second chance" is the point here lol. Lots of people I know who got temp banned for things usually get unbanned after their 3 hour lockout, but if they continually repeat it they get permabanned.

    Think of it this way:

    Strike 1. Your post gets moderated.
    Strike 2. You get temp banned for 3+hrs.
    Strike 3. You continually get temp banned they decide to permaban you after reviewing your case.

    It's really that simple..If her brother is who that post says it is, I know there's been quite a few instances of his posting that he more than likely would have or did get banned for, and SE reviewed that and perma banned him.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    SE doesn't perma ban if you're on a "second chance" is the point here lol. Lots of people I know who got temp banned for things usually get unbanned after their 3 hour lockout, but if they continually repeat it they get permabanned.

    Think of it this way:

    Strike 1. Your post gets moderated.
    Strike 2. You get temp banned for 3+hrs.
    Strike 3. You continually get temp banned they decide to permaban you after reviewing your case.

    It's really that simple..If her brother is who that post says it is, I know there's been quite a few instances of his posting that he more than likely would have or did get banned for, and SE reviewed that and perma banned him.
    What you say is generally about right except about his posts, though I'm not sure if you read my last post. Really the issue isn't about whether we think they should or should not do it but is whether they are going to or not. I made the forum post because I was curious what some others would say to it, though mainly looking for a dev response on the matter at hand.

    Though no one has yet answered my response to the "No" that keeps getting thrown out there. What would it hurt? How would it in any way effect the players negatively? I partially explained how it is a win-win at the current time and no resistance but people ignoring the statement altogether. Titans understands just wish the rest of the community could too. We are giving their game a second chance, they can give all their fans one as well.
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    I agree with op. Give everyone a second chance, especially Gath.
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    Last edited by Beren; 01-18-2013 at 10:04 AM.

  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    But for those that remember this that have played XI:

    Remember when the Salvage exploit was around and people were getting banned left and right and swore up and down they did nothing despite the fact those who have done nothing weren't banned?
    This was one of the most delicious moments in my FFXI career. Especially watching the smug cheaters who swore up and down they would never get banned....get banned. They all expected SE to stay idle, and when SE brought the might of Thor down upon them, they all cried innocent.

    Read more!:

    Amazing thread about dumb cheaters being dumb.
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