dev1031 You are losing your main playerbase by making things too easy/fast/casual

[Abriael]

then ask yourself why they did that, if the game was such a win only with the "Hardcores"

Exactly. They did that precisely because hardcore gamers are *not* the main playerbase of any MMORPG anymore. It was the only way they had to retain decent customer numbers.

The funny thing is that I could be easily classified as quite a lot more hardcore than most of the ones complaining here that the game isn't designed around their demands. I play every day, several hours (sleeping very little helps).
The difference is that I realized long ago that I'm part of a small niche, and since I want the games I play to be successful (and a lot of people I play with), I'm quite willing to let it be more accessible to people that have less time/dedication than me.

Taste for being bad?

I'm afraid you got your definitions wrong mate. Having more time doesn't equate to being "good".
The only ones that think it does are the ones that aren't good at all, and have to replace the actual meaning of "good" with "have a ton of time to waste" in order to feel part of it

[Visch]

I'm afraid you got your definitions wrong mate. Having more time doesn't mean being "good"

Having more time? You post on these forums x100 more than me. You have more time then anyone else you just don't want people to be better than you because you can't handle it.

[Jinko]

Having more time? You post on these forums x100 more than me. You have more time then anyone else you just don't want people to be better than you because you can't handle it.

You're getting pretty childish now, you have lost this same old battle over and over in how many threads now ?

Fact is that SE don't want to make another FF11 clone, they don't want to cater to the hardcore players so you are clearly SOL.

As for FF11 taking more skill to level thats complete BS, I had 2 jobs at 75 (yea i quit a long time ago) it wasn't skill that got me to 75 it was time, time standing around doing nothing in Jeuno/Whitegate with my LFP flag up. (yea those times were shit hot awesome!!)

I have some awesome memories of playing 11, CoP was awesome, but I don't want to go back to that kind of time sink again and its pretty clear the majority don't either that is why you are the minority on these forums even in a game that only has 30k players (I duno if thats accurate, I see it thrown around alot)

[Elexia]

Fact is that SE don't want to make another FF11 clone, they don't want to cater to the hardcore players so you are clearly SOL.

There are no FFXI clones, therefore there can't be "another clone", not to mention they wanted to make it as different as possible, yet similiar to XI but they messed that up and even admitted as such.

Also the skill is, I can guarantee even if you level to 75 as RDM, you won't be able to solo anything just because the job itself can solo NMs, that's the "skill" that is lost being able to burn from 30-90 without ever touching a party to learn your job.

[Visch]

You're getting pretty childish now, you have lost this same old battle over and over in how many threads now ?

Fact is that SE don't want to make another FF11 clone, they don't want to cater to the hardcore players so you are clearly SOL.

As for FF11 taking more skill to level thats complete BS, I had 2 jobs at 75 (yea i quit a long time ago) it wasn't skill that got me to 75 it was time, time standing around doing nothing in Jeuno/Whitegate with my LFP flag up. (yea those times were shit hot awesome!!)

I have some awesome memories of playing 11, CoP was awesome, but I don't want to go back to that kind of time sink again and its pretty clear the majority don't either that is why you are the minority on these forums even in a game that only has 30k players (I duno if thats accurate, I see it thrown around alot)

When ever they add harder stuff everyone is just going to complain. You can't make everyone happy. The only option is balance.

i believe it but seem there a few hardcore players that dont. sorry but i hell don't want to sit around 24hours for a mob to pop but if there at least 1-3hours random time to make them more rare would help. I don't want to sit 3-6hours for a raid -.- sick of that in wow and FFXI.

Am not a hardcore player or a casual i play 10+hours doing noting sometime i play 10+hours level up or 10+hours chilling and talking. i want something fun and somewhat hard.

I don't know how many times I've said this but a 21-24 hour NM doesn't mean you sit around for 24 hours. It means it can pop 21 to 24 hours after it's killed so 3 hours max.

[Jinko]

When ever they add harder stuff everyone is just going to complain. You can't make everyone happy. The only option is balance.

Well there is no denying that, you only need look at these forums.

Of course as many people have said they are adding easy/casual content first because the game is still in pseudo-beta and adding end game content when the battle system, stat system and other things aren't fix is a waste of time, they will only need to go back and rebalance it.

[Abriael]

Having more time? You post on these forums x100 more than me. You have more time then anyone else you just don't want people to be better than you because you can't handle it.

Considering how much you advocate wasting time instead of actual challenge, I seriously doubt that "people" will ever involve you

And yes, I have a lot of time. I work on computers for 50% of my worktime and I sleep very little. The difference between you and me is that I know I'm part of a small niche the commercial/monetary weight of which is near zero, and I don't strive for the game to be a failure with 10000 active players by restricting it's content to *my* niche.

Sorry mate, but being willing to camp a mob for any extended period of time doesn't make you,me or anyone "better" than anyone else.