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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    I can easily turn that around by saying that while a warrior would not mind an armored mount, a mage might be cross if the fastest mounts in the game are all armored mounts.

    I personally ran into this in WoW before mount speeds were normalized. My warrior wasn't hit badly by that because I happened to choose the Alterac Ram, which was top speed and armored. My mage had the choice of going slow on a chestnut mare or swallowing RP pride and going for the armored warhorses that could go at top speed.
    Dont know why a mage would be aganist an armored mount - just because mages dont wear armor is no reason why everything associated around the mage has no armor. That being said the fastest mount being heavily armored would be pretty silly unless it was like bahamut.. (bahamut could have a city on him and still be fast kind of thing)


    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    The jobs are not used for exactly the same thing. Mounts are mounts. Difference in concept and application.
    No not really. If you want to get through a heavy crowd you may try to run straight through heavy duty, or you may try to zip and weave - or even a balance of both. Application still applicable and more importantly logical.


    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Oh please. It's inevitable. It always happens in anything that involves number crunching and stats. Hell, it even happened in Pokemon, and that's as far as you can get from wizards and dragons.
    Yes - because the numbers are hard to balance or at a point power creep says screw you lol. But having no differences is far more childish and as I keep calling it - relegates decisions to designer choice. I dont want to play a fashion game (that doesnt mean I dont think about how I look, but rather I think of many contexts and not just how it makes my boots and ass look).


    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    RPG and MMORPG function under very different conventions.
    Very different because its multiplayer. Else no.


    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    On appearance, RPGs have theirs built in. Final Fantasy characters are all designed to be stylish and have good-looking gear. Their mounts and rides always look awesome.

    MMORPGs suffered the conundrum of gear appearance until someone had the brilliant idea of having vanity slots as an in-game system. Mount appearance is no different, because if you picture your wizard on a saddleless black horse but have to pick the heavily armored ram or warhorse because they go at top speed and are practical to have, then having a mount is not going to be very fun to you.

    There's a reason stuff like mount speed and such scaling with your character's riding skill/level is a much better idea than it scaling with the mount itself.

    I guess you hate vanity slots too, huh?
    I do hate vanity slots, I think its people crying I want everything rather then being forced to take the decisions. Vanity system is anti rpg. If you have a problem that your iconic look isnt available ask for a new mount or use the old mount and deal - as the world has consequences. Vanity system removes consequences like some child book.

    So again, I hate the vanity system because people are asking to take consequence and decision out of the game so they can have whatever they want without consequence - anti rpg (because if you were to properly rp you would understand everything has consequence).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 01-02-2013 at 11:59 AM.