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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I don't see the point of making non-chocobo mounts if they serve no practical purpose. They should all have variable traits that change the way they function. We could even get mounts that move better based on terrain.

    I don't want a bunch of mounts I will never use because my chocobo will always be better.
    The only difference between Chocobos and other mounts will be that chocobos can fill up a party slot in combat, and will likely have more barding/equipment customization.

    As a mount though, a chocobo is no different than the others besides aesthetics. So when it comes to riding, the chocobo isn't really better than the others. It's all up to personal preference.
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    Chocobos are boring. There, I said it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanemakikaze View Post
    Chocobos are boring. There, I said it.
    Yeah they are lol. Different color ones make it a bit more fun though! I am probably tired of them from using them for years in FFXI
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    People against this sound to some degree phobic of cool shit LOL ..its ridiculous
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    I think people need to understand, most people play mmorpgs as simply games not as a medium for them to roleplay on. So everything doesn't have to make sense, its a matter of pleasing the customer. If you are a good roleplayer, you can make sense out of non-sense lol.

    By the way I like rping but my personal opinion is I think vanity slots actually help in roleplaying, as it allows a person to roleplay what they want and how they want it to be. More freedom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXHalloweenTrixXx View Post
    I think people need to understand, most people play mmorpgs as simply games not as a medium for them to roleplay on. So everything doesn't have to make sense, its a matter of pleasing the customer. If you are a good roleplayer, you can make sense out of non-sense lol.

    By the way I like rping but my personal opinion is I think vanity slots actually help in roleplaying, as it allows a person to roleplay what they want and how they want it to be. More freedom.
    I think you should be able to wear what you want but with consequence. For example you are in town and want to be a little bit silly and run around naked and rp as a wild man- Great! You want to RP as a reindeer and fight a boss? Great! But face the consequences.

    Vanity destroys that last part (consequence) and thus is against rp as rp is also about response not just about action. You give action and the game and others give response.

    Also SE should just call it an mmoG and not an mmoRPG if they are going to fail on the account of RPG. Which Yoshida said "This is first and foremost an RPG".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I think you should be able to wear what you want but with consqeuence. For example you are in town and want to be a little bit silly and run around naked and rp as a wild man- Great! You want to RP as a reindeer and fight a boss? Great! But face the consequences.

    Vanity destroys that last part and thus is aganist rp as rp is also about response not just about action. You give action and the game and others give response.

    Also SE should just call it an mmo and not an mmoRPG if they are going to fail on the account of RPG. Which Yoshida said "This is first and foremost an RPG".
    Well RPGs essentially means a game that has a story and character progression, it really doesn't matter about armor designs. So really, what it seems to me is that you want a fantasy game with more realism.

    There are many rpgs and mmorpgs that has people wearing ridiculous armors (even final fantasy titles may I add). You could see a bikini armor and it grants high defense, which doesn't really make much sense but its there to appeal to the player and how they want their character to be seen as. So really its the same concept xD but the game is still an rpg despite the outrageous/stylish/unreal armors that doesn't necessarily translate to the proper stats if they were in fact trying to go by realistic values.

    So really, why force realism unto other players? If a person wants to have a cool looking character or a funny looking one, it really isn't a problem. You can avoid them or rp with your inner circle of friends who avoid the vanity system.

    People have different interests in games, not everyone is 'hardcore' roleplayers, cause really its not an issue. The game is still a game after all, and people should be able to can be happy with how their characters are seen like.
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    Just don't make us do raids for mounts. Quests, like with AF are completely OK. But raids for mounts is just going to cause a bunch of shit and be dumb all around.

    Don't do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    Just don't make us do raids for mounts. Quests, like with AF are completely OK. But raids for mounts is just going to cause a bunch of shit and be dumb all around.

    Don't do it.
    lol, thinks of a moment in WoW about a .0001% mount drop.

    ... ... Ah.. yes :P

    I think they could use the token system they have - make mounts cost that way from dungeons. I agree they should be quest related more though - when I think ridding something I think that I must have tamed it first (or charmed it with magic), just obtaining a mount from thin air felt really awkward.

    Quote Originally Posted by xXHalloweenTrixXx View Post
    People have different interests in games, not everyone is 'hardcore' roleplayers, cause really its not an issue. The game is still a game after all, and people should be able to can be happy with how their characters are seen like.
    I think the people that call themselves RPers and fail all logic (like the armor - I'm a tanking girl with a bikini) are failing the RP and are more like DP - dream playing (Bad acronym.. lol). Role playing requires you to actually inhabit the role.

    Edit: In some games, or pretty much in all anime, the strength of the character is from themselves or from the magic in the items and not from its substance / realistic protection range, so to rp in that sense makes sense (power from within is all that matters in those cases, not gear) - however FFXIV is strictly a gear matters MMO (else it wouldnt matter what you wore into combat or that gear wouldnt have (which it does) a general materiel / cover amount = defense amount, even the colliseum gear follows this 'a bit' which has low defense stats).

    As role play is more then just the story. Also to those single player games they purposely designed it so you equiped accessories and never armor - your strength for taking damage was always determined by accessories * and the inner power (like iron skin meditation, except to a whole new level). * (though sometimes the accessory was an armor piece).

    In this game you use gear to appropriately tank therefore the gear is important to the rp element. Its not associate-able in the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I think the people that call themselves RPers and fail all logic (like the armor - I'm a tanking girl with a bikini) are failing the RP and are more like DP - dream playing. Role playing requires you to actually inhabit the role.

    As role play is more then just the story. Also to those single player games they purposely designed it so you equipped accessories and never armor - your strength for taking damage was always determined by accessories and the inner power.

    In this game you use gear to inappropriately tank therefore the gear is important to the rp element. ITs not associate-able in the same way.
    And you see right there is your problem :P. It seems you have an elitist mentality on how an RPer should be like. There are many kinds of roleplayers, and vanity system is actually helpful to some roleplayers in portraying the character they want to be seen as. As I said you want realism, but a rpg doesn't necessarily has to be realistic.

    Also I've played many single player rpgs where armor can be equipped, so where are you getting your information from? We must be playing different single player RPG games. Maybe expand your library of RPG games?
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