Lifetime Subscription

[SkyeWindbinder]

People who think Lifetime subs will make SE lose money are wrong wrong wrong.

It will take years for a customer to see any advantage to having a lifetime sub. And in the meantime, it will be a gain for SE. If SE sees losses before the lifetime sub becomes profitable for the subscriber, it will have lost money in OTHER WAYS that have nothing to the existance of a life time option. By the time the life time sub becomes a discount to the player, ARR will be years old and already a success.

But the thing of it is, a lifetime sub is just not a good idea for a variety of reasons.

I mean, if the game is a huge success, then the people who paid a lifetime sub will not have to pay another dime to play an awesome game. Good for them. But what about the people who made the game? That's money they will miss out on as payment for their efforts, or even to invest in improving the game so it gets even better as time goes by. And if the game is a flop, players will have paid a huge sum of money for a game that sucks. Sure, it might help SE pay off some investors and help them break even and whatnot (though let's face facts here, it won't, because not a lot of people are going to pay a huge lump sum of money for a lifetime sub to this game), but it will leave players who paid that money with a bitter taste in their mouths, and chances of anyone who in't a blind SE fanboy ever investing in another one of their mmos afterwards would be slim to none.

And let's not forget that even offering a lifetime sub to this game would not do much to instill trust into the players. It would be seen exactly as it is; SE offering a payment option that might help them break even in case the game doesn't do well. Which would look to players like they were anticipating the game being a failure and are trying to cover their proverbial behinds in such a case.

In comparison, that would be like being on a cruise ship with a bunch of other people, the captain telling you all "You guys are gonna have so much fun!", and yet finding out later that all the lifeboats are labelled "For Captain and Crew only". You ask the captain why that is, and he tells you "Well, we couldn't fit enough lifeboats on the ship to carry everyone, so we felt it best that we just make sure we have enough to save the crew and myself, you know, just in case. But don't worry! We planned our sailing route months in advance! So in all likelihood, this ship won't sink! We should be fine!" Would the captain's reassuring words make you feel better about the situation? Or would you at least feel a bit, oh I dunno, on edge? I don't know about you, but definitely the latter for me.

[Zehira]

Well, Zehira, since you can't address my posts and will continue to troll than g'day mate.



Seriously. It's why I hate monthly withdrawals. It's a problem. Life time subs will probably save SE in processing fees as well.

I hate monthly withdrawaaaaaaa!


Seriously, it's not up to us, it's ultimately up to SE. -_-

[Zenaku]

I suppose now would be a bad time to mention that over the 8 years I spent playing FFXI that I paid over $1200 in monthly fees...

i pay little over that due to the fact i pay for 2 account for 3years lol once my gf join. I even quit for over 6month but keep on paying for the game because i knew i be back to it lol.

[Felis]

Who do you think you are? God? lol

My suggestion would be... Make it F2P for players who want to try it with limited content (similar to alpha) and give them some time to think if they really want to buy it and pay to play.

We never know until beta tho. This forum keeps getting rage and rage explosion...

A trial time would be good. But it need to be balanced. Enough freedom to test the low level time and enough restriction to give RMT no advantage. Something like max. level 20 + no DoH/DoL class + max. 25 hour playtime (this would be 5 days with 5 hours each day)

[Zehira]

A trial time would be good. But it need to be balanced. Enough freedom to test the low level time and enough restriction to give RMT no advantage. Something like max. level 20 + no DoH/DoL class + max. 25 hour playtime (this would be 5 days with 5 hours each day)

This would be a good idea... d

[syntaxlies]

People who think Lifetime subs will make SE lose money are wrong wrong wrong.

It will take years for a customer to see any advantage to having a lifetime sub. And in the meantime, it will be a gain for SE. If SE sees losses before the lifetime sub becomes profitable for the subscriber, it will have lost money in OTHER WAYS that have nothing to the existance of a life time option. By the time the life time sub becomes a discount to the player, ARR will be years old and already a success.

Uhhhh... no? How about addressing my post?

life time subs are a gamble for SE they are a gamble for the player. You cant say SE wont lose money cause its a gamble and they dont even know



I haven't posted since yesterday... and no one was quoted in my post so who am I arguing with?

You ignore my post because you can't argue with it. :P Fine troll my responses then because you have no real reason there shouldn't be lifetime option.

Remember, you don't have to take the option... I will.. you don't have to. :P

Lifetime subs will hurt nothing.

you didnt have to quote someone, see the red text

[HiirNoivl]

Uh huh, sure. G'day to you too.

[Zehira]

Uh huh, sure. G'day to you too.

I see you trollin'

[Pseudopsia]

Stop it you two, If can't argue in a civilize manner then don't say anything at all.

[Starlord]

Stop it you two, If can't argue in a civilize manner then don't say anything at all.

Reminds me of the the Simba and Scar fight! XD