Lifetime Subscription

[AttacKat]

Just need to make a minor correction if I may.

I don't know why you guys keep using the $120/yr basis. To use this figure, it automatically assumes ONLY LEGACY members are allowed to sign up for the lifetime option, which of course, will bring on more whiners.

Therefore, the proper yearly cost should be $180.

BTW, as much as we like to see it happen to FFXIV, no one version of game is going to last 20 years. 20 years ago, we just started playing DOOM on 640x480.

jc

[HiirNoivl]

Lifetime Sub? Not many people can afford a big chuck of change like that. Year Subs? Yes I would hop on that actually.

I hate monthly bills so I would definitely get one of these even if it meant saving up for it.

[Abriael]

You can say what you have to say without "attacking me" or I should say, you could have excluded that line. I know your going to say I'm not attacking you, but when you say things like " Your doing the Usual mistake", I feel that's attacking me. The first line was not needed at all.

"you're making a mistake" is not an attack. And you do that mistake often, like many others around here, so it's "usual".

Back on topic, the term Lifetime means pay now and never pay again, If everyone were to do this option, where would there money come from after the initial payout to SE? I'm not saying everyone would do that option if they offered it, but if that were to be the case where would there money come from exactly?

It's a statistically impossible option, as obviously there are millions of gamers that can't afford dropping that kind of money all at one time, without even counting those that aren't willing.

And mind you, even if we wanted to waste our time discussing impossibilities, if say even only 500,000 people were to subscribe to the game (and that'd be a fairly modest playerbase for an AAA MMO) and them all were inspired by God to do a lifetime subscription, that'd mean 150 million dollars dropped on the game at release, without counting box sales.

I'm rather sure Wada and Yoshida would improvise a little ballet in their offices if that was to happen.

[Kallivis]

for the quality of this game it would have to $1,200 so I doubt this may happen... especially since one year costs between $120 and $144 already...

Don't get a job in business.

What you're assuming is that the average consumer is going to play without any breaks for over 10 years.

Even if that was the case, you would never give the actual figure that would be worth. People sell "lifetime" bundles at a significantly reduced price. We're talking about a subscription to an online game here.

Also "for the quality of the game", the game isn't out yet. Considering the reputation of the game, it is one of the most despised MMOs in the world on a global basis. Its reputation is horrendous. I'm sure ARR will be great, but who knows if it will fix the horrible reputation 1.x put forth.

[Alhanelem]

It's a Gambler's Move, I wouldn't roll on that to me at least.

it is a gamble, but it's not as poor of a bet as you're probably thinking. 2 years is a long time to play a game. And while quite a few of us played XI for much longer than that, a much larger percentage did not.

[Starlord]

I hate monthly bills so I would definitely get one of these even if it meant saving up for it.

Year or lifetime?

I mean if they offered lifetime and it was reasonably priced and I could afford it then I would do lifetime. But when I look at the reality of things, would SE resort to a Bankruptcy tactic to snare away money, when there game is good enough to just pay monthly/3 months/6 months/ 1 year? Yes I feel a Lifetime Sub is a Bankruptcy tactic.

[Kallivis]

It's a Gambler's Move, I wouldn't roll on that to me at least.

Business is all about gambling and taking risks. To say anything SE has done already is not a gamble is ridiculous. ARR in itself is an absolute gamble. This is the biggest gamble I've ever seen in the entire game industry. Who the hell revives a dead MMO with another multi-million dollar investment that shoots labour through the roof? Super Yoshida, that's who.

[Abriael]

Yes I feel a Lifetime Sub is a Bankruptcy tactic.

And you're wrong. It's simply an established commercial move in the MMORPG field, that rather obviously has nothing to do with Bankruptcy.

And she obviously meant lifetime.

[Starlord]

"you're making a mistake" is not an attack. And you do that mistake often.

It is "to me" so like others have said.. if something seems like an attack to someone else.. just apologize for the trouble and don't do it again. " It's that simple" as you call it. and it will avoid pointless encounters such as this one.

Annnnyways, forget about it. Like I said I feel this would be a "last resort" move if they really needed the money in bulk. I just don;t see the need for them to do it as a company, that has it's head well above water.

And you're wrong. It's simply an established commercial move in the MMORPG field, that rather obviously has nothing to do with Bankruptcy.

Your right it is a "Commercial move" when given the circumstances that need to arise for any company to go that path. You can say " I'm wrong" but that doesn't change how I feel.. about that kind of "move" for a company to make. So your wasting your time trying to prove something that you "feel" is right.

If they offered me lifetime and it was at a good price I would buy it, but I wouldn't encourage them to use it though. You can if you want to, but not me :P.

[HiirNoivl]

People sell "lifetime" bundles at a significantly reduced price. We're talking about a subscription to an online game here.

Another reason to buy in bulk... On top of Legacy discount, it would probably save 100s of money in the long run

Year or lifetime?

The longer the better. I was disappointed when 6 months was the longest sub. You have to look at the advantages. It's not a bad thing to offer a lifetime sub. After all, it's an OFFER: most people won't take it probably because it's expensive, but it's all money in the bank. It won't hurt anything.