Lifetime Subscription

[Starlord]

It's not new because MMOs have done it before. Where's the guarantee the game will even last a year? Let alone multiple years to justify it? Will the benefits travel to FFXI when/if ARR shuts down prematurely and invalidating your lifetime sub?

It's not about "trying something new" it's about common sense, it's like SWTOR offering lifetime sub and we seen what happened, it'd cause more problems for SE than help honestly and as said it is usually offered early on/launch only because it boosts income and we already have something similar:

Legacy.

Which no one complained about the removal of or fighting against it. Life time discount for as long as ARR run you're already paying significantly less a year than most people who'll be playing. They're good options if you know the MMO will be around to justify it because people will complain and expect compensation of equal or greater value if/when the game closes out prematurely. So it's more of a gamble than losing out on money because you don't really lose your money if you got the service you paid for then and there unless the game goes kaput shortly after like so many MMOs have.

The only gamble is offering it at all in a time of uncertainty for MMORPGs.

For once, I agree with you! :O

Do you Starlord, Take FFXIV:ARR to be your MMO, to play as long as you both shall live?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!! Maybe I have to think on it :P.

[Abriael]

I believe it was you that was pushing hard for in game rmt a couple months so you could trade Gil for subscriptions. You could probably make enough money to play for a month if you beg out side of a 7-11 for 30 mins a month if your short on cash. I'm glad that se wants just monthly sub fee at this point and hope it stays that way. Most other games have all that cash shop, tiered membership, free to play, pay to win junk. I really just want to play a game with a straight forward subscription plan.

Aside the silly personal attack and second guessing that just shows how weak your arguments are, how exactly is the existence of *options* changing the straight forward subscription plan for you?

The existence of a lifetime subscription option does not in any way change the possibility of paying for your subscription monthly.

It's not new because MMOs have done it before.

It's new because FFXIV and FFXI didn't do it before, and we know very well how some people here receive things that Square enix never tried. Because if Square Enix doesn't do it, it's not good.

Where's the guarantee the game will even last a year? Let alone multiple years to justify it? Will the benefits travel to FFXI when/if ARR shuts down prematurely and invalidating your lifetime sub?

Lifetime subs are a decision that lays on the customer. If you decide to support a product, it's your decision, no one forced you, and it's your sole responsibility.

Besides, anyone with half a shred of logic would know that the possibility of this game "shutting down" within a year is absolutely negligible. There are plenty options before that. At worst it would go hybrid, and even with a hybrid business model a lifetime sub retains its value.

It's not about "trying something new" it's about common sense, it's like SWTOR offering lifetime sub and we seen what happened

Only, they did not offer it. Oops.

Legacy.

Which is a radically different option, offered to a radically different target, and as such is comparing apples to escalators.

[Kiroh]

And no. No matter the quality. No game would be worth over 1000 bucks for a lifetime.

I suppose now would be a bad time to mention that over the 8 years I spent playing FFXI that I paid over $1200 in monthly fees...

[Zenaku]

I suppose now would be a bad time to mention that over the 8 years I spent playing FFXI that I paid over $1200 in monthly fees...

i pay little over that due to the fact i pay for 2 account for 3years lol once my gf join. I even quit for over 6month but keep on paying for the game because i knew i be back to it lol.

[Kallivis]

for the quality of this game it would have to $1,200 so I doubt this may happen... especially since one year costs between $120 and $144 already...

Don't get a job in business.

What you're assuming is that the average consumer is going to play without any breaks for over 10 years.

Even if that was the case, you would never give the actual figure that would be worth. People sell "lifetime" bundles at a significantly reduced price. We're talking about a subscription to an online game here.

Also "for the quality of the game", the game isn't out yet. Considering the reputation of the game, it is one of the most despised MMOs in the world on a global basis. Its reputation is horrendous. I'm sure ARR will be great, but who knows if it will fix the horrible reputation 1.x put forth.

[HiirNoivl]

People sell "lifetime" bundles at a significantly reduced price. We're talking about a subscription to an online game here.

Another reason to buy in bulk... On top of Legacy discount, it would probably save 100s of money in the long run

Year or lifetime?

The longer the better. I was disappointed when 6 months was the longest sub. You have to look at the advantages. It's not a bad thing to offer a lifetime sub. After all, it's an OFFER: most people won't take it probably because it's expensive, but it's all money in the bank. It won't hurt anything.

[Starlord]

Another reason to buy in bulk... On top of Legacy discount, it would probably save 100s of money in the long run



The longer the better. I was disappointed when 6 months was the longest sub. You have to look at the advantages. It's not a bad thing to offer a lifetime sub. After all, it's an OFFER: most people won't take it probably because it's expensive, but it's all money in the bank. It won't hurt anything.

Your right as a Customer Longer + Cheaper= Better I agree with you. and it doesn't hurt to have that option you are right about that as well. I just feel if I was in their shoes and I was making money off a MMORPG, I wouldn't put a Lifetime option.

The longer the Sub plan the cheaper it is ( for Most MMORPGs that aren't free). They are banking on if the Customer is going to stay and play for a long time or cop out early. That's why I feel it's a Gamble for SE to offer it.. BUT if they do offer it.. of Course I wouldn't pass it up. =)

[HiirNoivl]

Your right as a Customer Longer + Cheaper= Better I agree with you. and it doesn't hurt to have that option you are right about that as well. I just feel if I was in their shoes and I was making money off a MMORPG, I wouldn't put a Lifetime option.

The longer the Sub plan the cheaper it is ( for Most MMORPGs that aren't free). They are banking on if the Customer is going to stay and play for a long time or cop out early. That's why I feel it's a Gamble for SE to offer it.. BUT if they do offer it.. of Course I wouldn't pass it up. =)

It's not really a gamble. The customer will only see savings if they stick around... if they don't they may have just paid MORE.

It's as close to a win-win as there ever will be when it comes to P2P MMOs

[Kirito]

Don't get a job in business.

What you're assuming is that the average consumer is going to play without any breaks for over 10 years.

Even if that was the case, you would never give the actual figure that would be worth. People sell "lifetime" bundles at a significantly reduced price. We're talking about a subscription to an online game here.

Also "for the quality of the game", the game isn't out yet. Considering the reputation of the game, it is one of the most despised MMOs in the world on a global basis. Its reputation is horrendous. I'm sure ARR will be great, but who knows if it will fix the horrible reputation 1.x put forth.

I'm studying engineering as you can probably tell... ^^

[Dragonheart]

for the quality of this game it would have to $1,200 so I doubt this may happen... especially since one year costs between $120 and $144 already...

BOOOM.