2013 a year of MMO

[IloveYouPumpkin]

exactly what keith said sounds about right. i'm at point where i have given up on mmo's all together. ffxiv was my hope for a great mmo i could play for years. it failed launch but i saw a type of mmo i wanted to play in it still. i can't say that now, least not as much, but i still see it's possibilities. i will give this game it's best shot i can give. and then that is it, fuk all mmo's.

I know the feeling because I've thought the same thing about every major MMO for many years now.

I'm looking forward to FFXIV 2.0, but I want to suggest a new MMO to you guys that you may want to check out if you're looking for something truly different from what we keep seeing. If you're bored of the same concepts, check this out.. It's very different. Trials of Ascension. That features section does absolutely no justice to the game. There's is so much more. Magic is not common and extremely difficult to aquire and learn. Nights are so dark you need a torch. You have to eat and drink or you'll starve. Maps don't tell you where to go.. in fact you can be a cartographer and map areas out, selling your work to others. Environment is a factor. Want to cross a desert? Bring a lot of water. Build a house anywhere you want, or make a village with a group of people. Or a castle once you have the money. Live as a thief, break into peoples houses / or hunt criminals... etc etc etc All of that is tied with perma-death. You get 100 lives, so don't waste them. That is the kind of game it is.

If you think the current state of MMO's is stale, particularly if you're a fan of the old sandbox MMO'S, this may be exactly the kind of change you want. There's still a long way to go before this game is close to release, but I'll be following it every step of the way.

[strallaalaa]

I know the feeling because I've thought the same thing about every major MMO for many years now.

I'm looking forward to FFXIV 2.0, but I want to suggest a new MMO to you guys that you may want to check out if you're looking for something truly different from what we keep seeing. If you're bored of the same concepts, check this out.. It's very different. Trials of Ascension. That features section does absolutely no justice to the game. There's is so much more. Magic is not common and extremely difficult to aquire and learn. Nights are so dark you need a torch. You have to eat and drink or you'll starve. Maps don't tell you where to go.. in fact you can be a cartographer and map areas out, selling your work to others. Environment is a factor. Want to cross a desert? Bring a lot of water. Build a house anywhere you want, or make a village with a group of people. Or a castle once you have the money. Live as a thief, break into peoples houses / or hunt criminals... etc etc etc All of that is tied with perma-death. You get 100 lives, so don't waste them. That is the kind of game it is.

If you think the current state of MMO's is stale, particularly if you're a fan of the old sandbox MMO'S, this may be exactly the kind of change you want. There's still a long way to go before this game is close to release, but I'll be following it every step of the way.

wow this does sound fricking amazing. all the things i wanted from ffxiv and pictured prior to it's first launch. hopefully the kickstarter gets going, i'll donate for sure. i been saying the makers of final fantasy and ffxi need to do something like this even if it means kickstarting it. but i guess if companies are realizing that these kickstarted mmo's start making more money then them they will get there arses in shape lol.

[Molic]

I know the feeling because I've thought the same thing about every major MMO for many years now.

I'm looking forward to FFXIV 2.0, but I want to suggest a new MMO to you guys that you may want to check out if you're looking for something truly different from what we keep seeing. If you're bored of the same concepts, check this out.. It's very different. Trials of Ascension. That features section does absolutely no justice to the game. There's is so much more. Magic is not common and extremely difficult to aquire and learn. Nights are so dark you need a torch. You have to eat and drink or you'll starve. Maps don't tell you where to go.. in fact you can be a cartographer and map areas out, selling your work to others. Environment is a factor. Want to cross a desert? Bring a lot of water. Build a house anywhere you want, or make a village with a group of people. Or a castle once you have the money. Live as a thief, break into peoples houses / or hunt criminals... etc etc etc All of that is tied with perma-death. You get 100 lives, so don't waste them. That is the kind of game it is.

If you think the current state of MMO's is stale, particularly if you're a fan of the old sandbox MMO'S, this may be exactly the kind of change you want. There's still a long way to go before this game is close to release, but I'll be following it every step of the way.

Kinda reminds me of demon souls / dark souls but harder sounds fun, probably donate some too see where it ends up.

[Abriael]

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I'm looking forward to FFXIV 2.0, but I want to suggest a new MMO to you guys that you may want to check out if you're looking for something truly different from what we keep seeing. If you're bored of the same concepts, check this out.. It's very different. Trials of Ascension. That features section does absolutely no justice to the game. There's is so much more. Magic is not common and extremely difficult to aquire and learn. Nights are so dark you need a torch. You have to eat and drink or you'll starve. Maps don't tell you where to go.. in fact you can be a cartographer and map areas out, selling your work to others. Environment is a factor. Want to cross a desert? Bring a lot of water. Build a house anywhere you want, or make a village with a group of people. Or a castle once you have the money. Live as a thief, break into peoples houses / or hunt criminals... etc etc etc All of that is tied with perma-death. You get 100 lives, so don't waste them. That is the kind of game it is.

I'm sorry but this sound by all means and purposes a 100% perfect recipe for absolute disaster.

There have already been several games that went that way, or took a fairly similar approach. They all overpromised (and the site has "Overpromising" written all over it), completely misjudged how players would use and receive their "hardcore" features (and again, the site shows that they're doing the same) and bombed so hard that the developers' rear still hurts.

Going out of one's way to make things as inconvenient as possible just to try and be different for its own sake is a very, very wrong way to develop a game.

Inconvenience sounds good only on paper, until you actually play it, and discover that your life is inconvenient enough without having to play a game that forces more inconvenience on you and simply isn't fun.

Feel free to be excited, and not to believe me now, but that game will hit a brick wall and fall flat on its back a couple months after release never to stand again. If it ever gets released, which is not even that likely. I seriously doubt they'll even make the kickstarter goal unless it's extremely low (55 followers on twitter and 157 on facebook in three months indicate quite clearly that they're overselling the "people believing in ToA and begging us to relight the forges of development").