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  1. #31
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    button mashing is button mashing. 1 button or 10 dont matter you still sit there pushing buttons watching a bar grow.

    gathering looks the same too, just everything is visual you see what your aiming for now not watching text only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antanias View Post
    <--Gives Yukikaze a ball of yarn and a high-five

    This made me lmao XD
    Careful with that yarn man. There's going to be a shortage in ARR...
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    Quote Originally Posted by indira View Post
    button mashing is button mashing. 1 button or 10 dont matter you still sit there pushing buttons watching a bar grow.
    Are you sure you like games, Indira?
    I mean, sans the very latest of gaming technology, games have always been about button mashing like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    Are you sure you like games, Indira?
    I mean, sans the very latest of gaming technology, games have always been about button mashing like that
    How dare you there was no button mashing in pong......
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    This actually makes me want to craft and gather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indira View Post
    button mashing is button mashing. 1 button or 10 dont matter you still sit there pushing buttons watching a bar grow.
    Umh no. Button mashing describes the repeated and *random* pressing of buttons to achieve a result.

    From the videos it's rather obvious that there's no randomness involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    It looks as both crafting and gathering are both easier/more reliable now.

    DoL having the option to target what they want is a big change. This benefits those who are gathering for crafting (get exactly what you need), it benefits those who are gathering for the purpose of selling in the markets (they can target the most profitable item) -- AND it benefits those who purchase the goods (if something becomes popular, then it will be directly harvested more and the price will drop - stronger supply and demand forces)
    There seems to be a whole lot of people who benefit from 'looting' these trees that SE has laid to waste for our convenience. Are there any drawbacks to such a "system"?

    DoL having the option to target what they want is not a big change. You had the option to do so in 1.0. The big change is making it as easy and simple as possible, just click what you want and you're done. What does this mean? It means that more people will gather effectively, lessening any profit from it. Even people who have almost no interest in it can jump in and go at maximum efficiency as there is no system in place. This is bad for people looking to profit from gathering, not good.

    If you're gathering to craft, are you crafting to gain EXP or gil? If it's gil, the fact that a higher % of people are gathering more effectively is going to hurt your gains. If it's EXP.. Leves had often become a faster way to do it, and we know quests will be a significant way to level in ARR.

    So what are we in favor of exactly? Perhaps speeding up a fragment of DoH EXP, something that is already designed to be very fast.. At the expense of a more complex and robust gathering system and overall economy? I say more complex - that doesn't mean complex, just moreso than the most simple way imaginable to keep gathering in the game at all.

    And nevermind the obvious that this kind of loot-gathering requires less sophisticated botting - that'd just be piling on.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyohma View Post
    Even people who have almost no interest in it can jump in and go at maximum efficiency as there is no system in place. This is bad for people looking to profit from gathering, not good..
    Not necessarily. it just means that profit won't be based on luck, but on a time-based constant. It's the same. It just removes the element of randomness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lirion View Post
    This actually makes me want to craft and gather.
    Same here!

    I think SE is on the right track as far as crafting. The monotony of the mini game is replaced with a system that allows you to choose your own reward, the crafting system itself seems a bit more fast paced, and I love the look of the UI system! It's a well-crafted system.

    Haha, "well-crafted". I made a funny!

    .........

    Screw you guys, I'm funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Not necessarily. it just means that profit won't be based on luck, but on a time-based constant. It's the same. It just removes the element of randomness.
    Gathering in 1.0 wasn't luck, it was probability -just as this video shows its percentages.

    What do you think changed in 1.0 when you changed the level (bar) at which you were gathering?
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