New NW drop Weapon and Armor!! >"<

[Dubont]

Same thing can go back to you. You don't have anything to do other than leves, behest, leves. I went all over the place to farm materials. I bet I have killed more mobs than you. In other words, I am more "adventure" than you. You're just starting playing FFXIV for LOL.

Wrong in every way.
1) Leves? Sir, I don't do leves and have not done leves since I got CON to 50.
2) Behest? Up until this recent update, it was another waste of time.
3) Grinding is a better way of exp over time than leves are. It's better when they are combined.
4) NMs are my main source of enjoyment currently.
5) Adventurer? No sir you are not. I have every crystal and node marked as well as good "camp" locations for grind parties at certain levels.
6) Just starting? Sir, I've been playing since Beta 1. I also started on September 30th. I'm guessing you received your assumption from my signature. The reason for lack of high level jobs is simple this: I hate the classes in this game and the crafting is horrible, imo.

Again, I want Final Adventure Fantasy, not Final Craft Fantasy. More straight drops from NMs, like real games, please.

[Norwan]

Wrong in every way.
1) Leves? Sir, I don't do leves and have not done leves since I got CON to 50.

Yes, you do leves, behest, leves before you get to 50.

2) Behest? Up until this recent update, it was another waste of time.

Then again, you do do behest "until" recent update.

3) Grinding is a better way of exp over time than leves are. It's better when they are combined.

Wrong, doing leves is the best way to gain SP (800SP/kill). If you do it right.

4) NMs are my main source of enjoyment currently.

Then, you just proof that you have nothing else to do than camping at NWs site.

5) Adventurer? No sir you are not. I have every crystal and node marked as well as good "camp" locations for grind parties at certain levels.

Sounds like only you have marked all the camp location for party grind.

6) Just starting? Sir, I've been playing since Beta 1. I also started on September 30th. I'm guessing you received your assumption from my signature. The reason for lack of high level jobs is simple this: I hate the classes in this game and the crafting is horrible, imo.

OK, i get that you really hate this class system in this game. That's why you only have one class get to r50 and have another class to r47 which doesn't count as real class. Question is, why stay?

Again, I want Final Adventure Fantasy, not Final Craft Fantasy. More straight drops from NMs, like real games, please.

So, drop equipments from mobs make it "real game". Don't you feel that dropping hides and horns from mobs make this game feel more realistic?

[Dubont]

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1) I DID leves, a lot, on CON until I hit 45 then I grinded to 50. On THM, I only grind in parties.

2) Again, until this recent update, behest was a waste of time due to too many people being in a party and it only happening once an hour. Yes, I do participate in a behest if I happen to be near a camp when it starts, but it's not my main source of leveling.

3) Wrong. Leves gain a ton of SP in a small amount of time, but they have a very small limit. 8 leves every 36 hours. If 8 leves give you...10 mobs a leve at 800sp per mob kill that = 64ksp in 36 hours, congratulations! Now, grinding raptors at 45, I was getting 340 per kill with 2 other people in the party and they went down relatively quickly. I dare say we killed 100 raptors in an hour, easily. Now, doing simple math, we see that 100 mobs/hr * 340sp/mob = 34000sp. Say I grind for 2 hours, I've already doubled the Sp that you got and will get for the next 34ish hours. In 36hrs you may gain 64-100k sp, but in 36 hours, just from grinding, I'll gain so much more (1,224,000sp to be exact, based off of the above estimations).

4) I didn't say that I had nothing else to do, I just said that NMs are my main source of enjoyment since the crafting is horrible and item fatigue prevents excessive gathering =)

5) No, I have every location's teleport, but I have taken note of the decent SP locations, yes.

6) I stay because I enjoy downing NMs with friends and I have hope for the game. I also know that they will release classes in the future that will be better than the current classes. There is more to the game than just crafting and different classes.

7) I'm not going for realism. This is FINAL FANTASY. Take note of the word "Fantasy." If I wanted a realistic game, I would go play Counterstrike or something similar. What I mean by "real game" is what games always have been and always should be. Yes, I like that some NMs drop materials, because I understand that some people craft, but not all NMs should drop materials because then that puts too much power into the hands of the crafters and not enough into those that actually work for the items (battle wise)

[Norwan]

What I mean by "real game" is what games always have been and always should be.

Then, Final Fantasy XIV will just like any other game on the market. It's its crafting system make FFXIV unique from other games.

[Dubont]

Then, Final Fantasy XIV is just like any other game on the market. It's its crafting system make FFXIV unique from other games.

there many things that make it unique, but also keep in mind that unique isn't always good.

[Reika]

there many things that make it unique, but also keep in mind that unique isn't always good.

Being a bandwagoner (Rift) isnt always good either.

[Dubont]

Being a bandwagoner (Rift) isnt always good either.

I don't like Rift either. It's on my list of games to never play again.