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  1. #1631
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    i think what he means is that in general a non-binding click of a like-button isn't necessarily a serious statement.

    the thread provides a platform for exchanging Pros and Cons, but not much more.
    Asking people a simple question as to whether they support something or not is pretty straight forward and to suggest that 550 people would just vote in favor for the ha-has is really nothing more than a pathetic attempt by someone in the minority opinion to justify how it is possible for more people to disagree with them than agree.

    Furthermore, asking people whether they support something but forcing them to vote as they would themselves choose to do is not logically sound. It makes the assumption that their opinion of whether to support the option and their own choice were, and should be, mutually exclusive.

    That is so ridiculous it is beyond words and anyone who thinks that would be somehow a more reliable way of determining what people's opinion is on this issue has a serious lack of scruples and/or brain function.

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    See, this is exactly why I think marriage should be left completely out of the game. ARR hasn't even come out yet, and people are already at each other's throats. It creates too much bad blood between players. Opens up the the proverbial can of worms, well actually, more like opens up the floodgates of hell. It bodes ill.
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  3. #1633
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    here's an argument... if SE is willing to make kefka... then SSM should be fine... I mean seriously... at the end of the game he's floating above a tower resting on a demon and on this tower are half naked men all who look like him and a bust of a woman... I think enough is implied there...
    A lot of SE games cast a highly flamboyant male or butch female as the villain... If they are willing to make represent us in the games and perpetuate that we may be evil. Why NOT let us marry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    It's gamma.
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    Vitamin T is known for enhancing Subligar based powers...

  4. #1634
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    Please, tell me more about how you can read hundreds of anonymous minds.
    its the real world, stop being in denial.

    It also occurred to me, you guys want SSM because u say its your freedom, well, my freedom is not to see SSM.
    Quiet shocking isn't it?

    Actually, you know what, YOU Please, tell me more about how you can read hundreds of anonymous minds. (are you sure those who did the poll actually are supporting?).

    This thread is actually quiet amusing, lol~ keep on with your campaign while it lasts.
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  5. #1635
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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    its the real world, stop being in denial.

    It also occurred to me, you guys want SSM because u say its your freedom, well, my freedom is not to see SSM.
    Quiet shocking isn't it?

    Actually, you know what, YOU Please, tell me more about how you can read hundreds of anonymous minds. (are you sure those who did the poll actually are supporting?).

    This thread is actually quiet amusing, lol~ keep on with your campaign while it lasts.
    You play an elezen... dear god your argument is invalid... seriously... login to 14 1.0... use /pose... use /happy Your character likes men...
    I mean like seriously... the /happy is pretty much a duplicate of a move from "Dancing Queen"
    /pose is a typically female movement but often commonly used by gay male models as well as sassy gays...
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    Last edited by RoxyLalonde; 12-15-2012 at 12:18 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    It's gamma.
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  6. #1636
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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    Actually it does make perfect sense, if you read my last sentence you would see that this post was made to show that the numbers in the first 2 polls (like this thread if u r with/ like this thread if you are against) are not accurate, and most of them just clicked like because it would be fun to piss those who are against.
    Seriouslyyyy?
    Wheres the fun on it after all?
    LOL, and the difference whould be so big????
    May i ask how old are you sir?
    Want it or not, its something that's out there (ppl that love same gender ppl), and what's the society trying to do is scare them to a point where they are forced to be unhappy, just because the society thinks about them as "aborts" or something like it.
    People need to grow up and let others do what they want and respect them.
    Society isnt a god that can force ppl do what they dont want to, and they are also nothing to tell others what's right or wrong about this.
    I actually dont get what's so wrong about this subject where society wont evolve at all about it and jsut let it be... It sounds like some kind of virus that will kill ppl on sight, instantly, or make them change sexual tastes just because they seen it. Or it kinda also sounds like, ppl are afraid that an homo will kidnap them, abuse them and make them change sexuality..... i dont get why ppl are so stupid around this subject.
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    Also, its obvious that ppl want Same Sex Marriage, some because they are IRL, others because they have boyfriend/girlfriend playing with same genders, and i dont think it is healthy for a game to limit males to pick male chars and females to pick female chars. Most of my friends play with female chars because they dont want to stare at a man's char all the day while playing.
    Just because its possible to Marry same gender doesnt mean you HAVE TO do it too... Its an option, like there always been one that lets you be a Man playing a Woman char.
    Also i'm sure there are plenty of man using a woman char that marries man that uses a male char, whouldnt u be against that too? Seriously...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    I don't think I've ever seen such an arrogant statement that one can claim to know why most of over 500 people voted for something. It's as absurd as saying you can read minds.
    It's also really condescending and belittles those who voted for it for legitimate reasons, like myself.
    I don't think they can believe that so many people could possibly be supportive of SSM, even if they aren't gay. So much that they want to throw out some stupid reasons to invalidate a poll that shows they are a vast minority.

    "553 people voted for yes but didn't really mean it! Derp" Yea right....
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  9. #1639
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    In a fair world, everyone would mind their own business and go on about their lives. In a fair world, people would understand to live and let live and not to try to control other peoples' lives. Bu the thing is, we live in a world that is FAR from the one I described. People of different religions, races, and beliefs are always going to try to convert others' to their way of thinking, forcefully more often than not. It's their way of validating their own beliefs; if they can use what they believe to assimilate or destroy others, then it seems to them to be that much stronger. There is safety in numbers, and only the strong shall survive. It's like the basest instincts of the most dangerous animals.

    That's why I think marriage should be kept out of MMOs. It ignites the war of the many tongues, it creates unnecessary and unneeded conflicts, and there are too many people who are not willing to leave alone those they don't agree with. Allowing marriage in MMOs is akin to allowing religion in MMOs, it won't go off well. Now, in my opinion, I really don't give a crap about SSM being in an MMO. Sure, it's not my way, but then again, my character won't be marrying anyone of his sex, so who cares? SSM is like any other feature in the game like holiday quests, it's not manditory to beat the game, and you can either do it or not, it really doesn't matter. I just wish Yoshi hadn't decided to add this feature. It's already a pain in the butt.
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    Last edited by SkyeWindbinder; 12-15-2012 at 03:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    That's why I think marriage should be kept out of MMOs. It ignites the war of the many tongues, it creates unnecessary and unneeded conflicts, and there are too many people who are not willing to leave alone those they don't agree with. Allowing marriage in MMOs is akin to allowing religion in MMOs, it won't go off well
    Why deny 2 of the most facinating aspects of humans to games?
    the 2 aspects that EVERY OTEHR form of art has studied and analize and deconstruct through the ages of mankind.

    Now on this particular mater od same sex marrige, there are TONs of players who play with characters that are not they own gender 90% of the mithras in FFXI were males playing females. so what is the problem with 2 clusters of poligons that represent the same gender in a game geting married?
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