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  1. #1621
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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    Simple...
    Make a Poll, "With, Against, Don't Care (not gonna get married)", BUT
    Those who choose to disagree with same sex marriage, will only be able to marry to different sex gender in game.
    and those who choose to agree with same sex marriage, will only be able to marry same sex gender in game.
    And those who choose "Don't Care", will not be able to get married at all in game.
    (Every one who vote is linked with his FFXIV account, so it is easy to know who picked what and implement it in the game) lol.

    Then see how many people will actually want same sex marriage... you would be surprised the people who liked the "Same sex marriage" post will disappear because they don't really want to marry same sex in game and choose to like the post just because they don't really care. (But when they will be forced to same sex marriage, then they will care) lol..

    Then take the opposite-sex vs same-sex numbers and see who win.
    It might be harsh, but it is the truth.

    (This post is not about people wanting to support the implementation of the system or not, but more of to show how many people really that don't care about same-sex, but chose same-sex just to have some laughs)
    This makes absolutely no sense. First of all, this isn't about how many people would actually have a SSM, it is about how many people support the choice being available regardless of what their reason for supporting it is. That doesn't matter at all.

    It is utterly stupid and nonsensical to suggest that a person should be forced into the opposite of what they would actually want to do just because they did the right thing by supporting someone else's wish to have a SSM out of fairness.

    The only thing your suggestion would show is how to force a false result via negative reinforcement and expectation of punishment for choosing the "wrong" answer.

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    this "poll" doesn't express more than a coarse opinion tendency anyways, since it has the possible inaccuracy factor that people can vote for both.
    so you can't figure out how many people actually took part anyways.

    and we don't know if the results are similar if they had actual consecuences in the game given the premise by Yoshi-P that he'd act in accordance to a (new and accurate) poll.
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  3. #1623
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    This makes absolutely no sense. First of all, this isn't about how many people would actually have a SSM, it is about how many people support the choice being available regardless of what their reason for supporting it is. That doesn't matter at all.

    It is utterly stupid and nonsensical to suggest that a person should be forced into the opposite of what they would actually want to do just because they did the right thing by supporting someone else's wish to have a SSM out of fairness.

    The only thing your suggestion would show is how to force a false result via negative reinforcement and expectation of punishment for choosing the "wrong" answer.
    Actually it does make perfect sense, if you read my last sentence you would see that this post was made to show that the numbers in the first 2 polls (like this thread if u r with/ like this thread if you are against) are not accurate, and most of them just clicked like because it would be fun to piss those who are against.
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  4. #1624
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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    Actually it does make perfect sense, if you read my last sentence you would see that this post was made to show that the numbers in the first 2 polls (like this thread if u r with/ like this thread if you are against) are not accurate, and most of them just clicked like because it would be fun to piss those who are against.
    Please, tell me more about how you can read hundreds of anonymous minds.
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  5. #1625
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    Please, tell me more about how you can read hundreds of anonymous minds.
    He assumes what people are thinking based on polls, >.>
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    "I care nothing about who dominates the land, For me and my brethren will forever rule the skies." Forgo the Forgotten Dragoon
    Credit goes to Denmo and Nique from Masamune for this art :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forgo View Post
    He assumes what people are thinking based on polls, >.>
    I don't think I've ever seen such an arrogant statement that one can claim to know why most of over 500 people voted for something. It's as absurd as saying you can read minds.
    It's also really condescending and belittles those who voted for it for legitimate reasons, like myself.
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  7. #1627
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    i think what he means is that in general a non-binding click of a like-button isn't necessarily a serious statement.

    the thread provides a platform for exchanging Pros and Cons, but not much more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    i think what he means is that in general a non-binding click of a like-button isn't necessarily a serious statement.

    the thread provides a platform for exchanging Pros and Cons, but not much more.
    True and people tend to forget that its just that and turn it into a debate about what is and what isn't right in the world... I'm not saying I know what people are thinking and won't say that a lot people think the way I do with this statement but what was the start of this tread seems to have been lost to the "war of words" as i like to call it and people are just fighting for reasons unknown
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    "I care nothing about who dominates the land, For me and my brethren will forever rule the skies." Forgo the Forgotten Dragoon
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  9. #1629
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    Quote Originally Posted by SedoSan View Post
    Simple...
    Make a Poll, "With, Against, Don't Care (not gonna get married)", BUT
    Those who choose to disagree with same sex marriage, will only be able to marry to different sex gender in game.
    and those who choose to agree with same sex marriage, will only be able to marry same sex gender in game.
    And those who choose "Don't Care", will not be able to get married at all in game.
    (Every one who vote is linked with his FFXIV account, so it is easy to know who picked what and implement it in the game) lol.

    Then see how many people will actually want same sex marriage... you would be surprised the people who liked the "Same sex marriage" post will disappear because they don't really want to marry same sex in game and choose to like the post just because they don't really care. (But when they will be forced to same sex marriage, then they will care) lol..

    Then take the opposite-sex vs same-sex numbers and see who win.
    It might be harsh, but it is the truth.

    (This post is not about people wanting to support the implementation of the system or not, but more of to show how many people really that don't care about same-sex, but chose same-sex just to have some laughs)
    Still want same sex marriage.. bet it!

    btw who r u to decide what care to who? >.<
    Then even who liked opposite sex marriage don't care! >.<

    Sometimes I really surprise about some post O.o
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    Momo Ochita From Ragnarok

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    Another reason why need need to make more Final Fantasy fan art... this is amazing work!
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