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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    A company telling something to its customers and then doing something else is definitely not "silly", not even a little.



    As a matter of fact. I have no idea if the Alpha went smoothly. Working on blind faith proved a bad choice once already.



    When a company tells X to its paying customers and then does Y which happens to be the opposite of X, a percentage of those customers will lose a certain amount of trust in that company. It's a very simple and straightforward marketing rule.
    Your hopeless:

    A company telling something to its customers and then doing something else is definitely not "silly", not even a little.
    Your the only one I see complaining till you turn blue so idn what your talking about there

    As a matter of fact. I have no idea if the Alpha went smoothly. Working on blind faith proved a bad choice once already.
    It's not blind faith Read the letters he keeps saying that Alpha is going smoothly, very little problems, and a even a few people that I know has told me Alpha feels like it should be in Beta. So again Don't know what your talking about.

    When a company tells X to its paying customers and then does Y which happens to be the opposite of X, a percentage of those customers will lose a certain amount of trust in that company. It's a very simple and straightforward marketing rule.
    While I understand that, You and "only" you has been at this for over a month since Alpha has started, I understand how you feel about getting "False information" but in life s**t happens company or no Company, all a person can do is deal with it.. sure Express how you feel about it.. but you been saying the same thing like a broken record since Alpha started so, all I can tell you is "Look forward to beta and stop dwelling in the past."
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    This thread needs to die.
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    lol. I told what they wanted from alpha right from the horses mouth and you keep making shit up, about loosing trust and all this other none sense, you are just butt hurt bro.
    I'm not making anything up, my friend. The "- Must currently have an active FINAL FANTASY XIV account" clause is coming from the horse's mouth, as it's's clearly written on the application form, which is the only document that people applying to the alpha are required to read.

    Whatever Yoshida may or may not have said somewhere else simply doesn't have the same value, as applicants don't have the responsibility to go look up whatever he says on some obscure forum post or interview.

    Petty personal attacks a la "u mad bro!" don't really change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Your the only one I see complaining till you turn blue so idn what your talking about there
    Your (this is the correct use of "your" by the way) reading is very selective. There's a ton of people complaining. As a matter of fact, I didn't even open any of the threads in which they do. The fact that I don't let you have it your way doesn't mean I'm the only one.

    It's not blind faith Read the letters he keeps saying that Alpha is going smoothly, very little problems, and a even a few people that I know has told me Alpha feels like it should be in Beta. So again Don't know what your talking about.
    he wrote just one letter, and believing it without seeing it with your own eyes is exactly the definition of "blind faith".
    If you have that approach, it's your prerogative, as it's mine to require a bit more verification before starting to sound the victory fanfare.

    While I understand that, You and "only" you has been at this for over a month since Alpha has started, I understand how you feel about getting "False information" but in life s**t happens company or no Company, all a person can do is deal with it.. sure Express how you feel about it.. but you been saying the same thing like a broken record since Alpha started so, all I can tell you is "Look forward to beta and stop dwelling in the past."
    Again, you're very selective in your reading.

    Letting it go equates to give SE the signal: "it's ok Square Enix, do whatever you want, no matter what you tell or publicize, we'll still look forward to what you'll do next and we'll stop dwelling in the past".

    "shit happens" is true. Few are more aware of that than I am.

    But before the "shit happens" is forgiven and forgotten, normally an intermediate step is required. It's called "addressing the situation and making amends". That step didn't happen, and that's a problem.
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  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Your (this is the correct use of "your" by the way) reading is very selective. There's a ton of people complaining. As a matter of fact, I didn't even open any of the threads in which they do. The fact that I don't let you have it your way doesn't mean I'm the only one.



    he wrote just one letter, and believing it without seeing it with your own eyes is exactly the definition of "blind faith".



    Again, you're very selective in your reading.

    Letting it go equates to give SE the signal: "it's ok Square Enix, do whatever you want, no matter what you tell or publicize, we'll still look forward to what you'll do next and we'll stop dwelling in the past".

    "shit happens" is true. Few are more aware of that than I am. But before the "shit happens" is forgiven and forgotten, normally an intermediate step is required. It's called "addressing the situation and making amends".
    You'll never understand keep the butthurt rolling right onto Release for all I care, but it really isn't getting no where, all I'm going to see you is a whiney kid that didn't get into Alpha. I know I know your not butthurt blah Blah. I read the whole thing, but when you fail to see what I'm trying to say there no point in reading everything anymore as it is a waist of time.
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    Ok, let's get this set up straight. "Active" does not mean you were paying for the game. You can still have an active account and not have any Character Slots paid for.



    This is a screencap from my personal account. FINAL FANTASY XIV 1 was some weird account that got set up during the beta test that has never had any content tied to it, yet it's showing as active on my account. So, when the game went free to play, all accounts were set to active, yet you still had to tell your profile you wanted a character slot in order to play. Two entirely different things.

    Enough of the butthurt that you didn't get selected to play the alpha. It's a damn alpha test, not a demo...
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    Enough of the butthurt that you didn't get selected to play the alpha.
    Yes please it's just one major headache.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Ok, let's get this set up straight. "Active" does not mean you were paying for the game. You can still have an active account and not have any Character Slots paid for.



    This is a screencap from my personal account. FINAL FANTASY XIV 1 was some weird account that got set up during the beta test that has never had any content tied to it, yet it's showing as active on my account. So, when the game went free to play, all accounts were set to active, yet you still had to tell your profile you wanted a character slot in order to play. Two entirely different things.

    Enough of the butthurt that you didn't get selected to play the alpha. It's a damn alpha test, not a demo...
    That's weird.
    My Final Fantasy XIV 1 account is canceled.
    But apparently it can be reactivated without any trouble.
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    Abriael you need to let it go. It's gone beyond disappointment to scapegoating and shifting blame to make yourself feel better. Alpha is almost over and you're still screaming bloody murder. Learn some patience and wait for Beta, which will be the better product to play on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Ok, let's get this set up straight. "Active" does not mean you were paying for the game. You can still have an active account and not have any Character Slots paid for.
    I'm afraid you didn't get it straight at all. For the longest time since the opening of the application until pretty much the final event, whoever tried to register for the alpha with a lapsed account was bounced with a message that said something like "you don't have an active account, piss off" (I paraphrase).

    Only afterwards application was opened to everyone, without any change in the "active account" clause.

    So no. "active" account doesn't mean what you think it means. It means what it means everywhere else in the industry, which is paying and able to play.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    You'll never understand keep the butthurt rolling right onto Release for all I care, but it really isn't getting no where, all I'm going to see you is a whiney kid that didn't get into Alpha. I know I know your not butthurt blah Blah.
    Again with the "I can't counter what he says, so I'll insult him". if you don't have a solid argument, why do you bother?

    I read the whole thing, but when you fail to see what I'm trying to say there no point in reading everything anymore as it is a waist of time.
    I don't fail to see it. I see it very well, and believe you're wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Yes please it's just one major headache.
    Why does it give you a headache exactly? You're not forced to read threads like this at all. The topic is self-explanatory, so if you find them so terrible, why do you read them?

    Now you have any responsibility to defend a company that obviously doesn't feel the need to defend itself on this matter. As much as I'm not "letting it go" (I really have no reason to, considering that my concern hasn't been in any way addressed), you're always here yourself bending over twice to make excuses for them and throwing personal attacks because you don't get your way.

    It seems to me that your "headache" is entirely self-inflicted.
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