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  1. #1561
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    this is for a different discussion
    Correct me if i an wrong, please do... the discussion is, can pixel [A] get married to pixel [B]. Now what [A] and [B] represent should technically not mater this being a game and all.. How ever what's adding fuel here is that SE currently will only allow the ceremony of [A] and [B] if they are tagged differently. That's as far as the argument goes... I don't care or give a damn for that matter if you are for/against/behind/in front of the SSM idea, take your idea else ware... going by in game lore it's M+F, end of debate... I don't care if SSM impacts you in R/L, this is not real life, it's a game and the further away it is from the perversion of real life the better of the game will be..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    Correct me if i an wrong, please do... the discussion is, can pixel [A] get married to pixel [B]. Now what [A] and [B] represent should technically not mater this being a game and all.. How ever what's adding fuel here is that SE currently will only allow the ceremony of [A] and [B] if they are tagged differently. That's as far as the argument goes... I don't care or give a damn for that matter if you are for/against/behind/in front of the SSM idea, take your idea else ware... going by in game lore it's M+F, end of debate... I don't care if SSM impacts you in R/L, this is not real life, it's a game and the further away it is from the perversion of real life the better of the game will be..

    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!. This argument has been kept alive by people relating it to RL. Thanks for summing it up perfectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    Correct me if i an wrong, please do... the discussion is, can pixel [A] get married to pixel [B]. Now what [A] and [B] represent should technically not mater this being a game and all.. How ever what's adding fuel here is that SE currently will only allow the ceremony of [A] and [B] if they are tagged differently. That's as far as the argument goes... I don't care or give a damn for that matter if you are for/against/behind/in front of the SSM idea, take your idea else ware... going by in game lore it's M+F, end of debate... I don't care if SSM impacts you in R/L, this is not real life, it's a game and the further away it is from the perversion of real life the better of the game will be..
    Sorce of the ingame lore that specifically says it must be M+F?
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  4. #1564
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    Quote Originally Posted by debola View Post
    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!. This argument has been kept alive by people relating it to RL. Thanks for summing it up perfectly.
    No it doesn't.

    First of all, there is no in game lore for marriage currently. SE has the choice of how to add it in, either with or without discrimination.

    Next, it is an arbitrary exclusion, not only against couples of the same gender, but also of couples of opposite gender who happen to play two characters the game recognizes as the same gender for no other reason than to placate small minded bigots.

    Lastly, his last sentence betrays his real objection. He calls it perversion. It is veiled homophobia. If you want to give rep to that and hop on that bandwagon, by all means have at it but don't think you'll be respected for it.

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    You guys can complain about this thread all you want, but I feel I should restate a couple of things.

    1.) Vast majority of people who have voted in this thread (549 v 154 atm) support in-game SSM.

    2.) The producer himself is the one who brought the subject up in the first place because :

    3.) Yoshi had already stated he's considering adding it to the game later.

    4.) Yoshi is the person who makes the Lore and everything supporting it, frankly he could turn your character into a purple hippogryph and make up a crazy story about why you are now an oddly colored flying wolf creature. And it would be canon, because he's the godd*mn producer, that's why.
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  6. #1566
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrionInerghem View Post
    In a game where you can be a RL guy and play in game girl, which often happens, and vice a versa, choosing to play a small creature, a half cat, or beastly Roegadyn, having a debate about same sex marriage is about the stupidest thing ever.

    Player to player marriage no matter the race, sex, or whatever.

    If Vivi and Quina can do it!!!!!!!!
    I wish people would get this through their heads.

    The very very few people left that dont get it at least.
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  7. #1567
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    No it doesn't.

    First of all, there is no in game lore for marriage currently. SE has the choice of how to add it in, either with or without discrimination.

    Next, it is an arbitrary exclusion, not only against couples of the same gender, but also of couples of opposite gender who happen to play two characters the game recognizes as the same gender for no other reason than to placate small minded bigots.

    Lastly, his last sentence betrays his real objection. He calls it perversion. It is veiled homophobia. If you want to give rep to that and hop on that bandwagon, by all means have at it but don't think you'll be respected for it.
    This argument is still past it's prime, and is scraping the bottom of the barrel regardless of your rebuttal... As well this is far from a "small minded bigots" reason, if you are THAT keen on getting married play opposite gender's.. plain and simple... you know compromise? ever see that word, do you know it's meaning? If a system YOU want to be a part of, no on forcing you mind you... makes it so you must have 2 shoes same color on both your feet, you get with it or keep walking.

    As well your selective thinking is a clear indicator of how much of the big picture you see, you not only misunderstood the meaning of what i wrote but went ahead and made it sound bad... the reason alone that people can't draw the line is why SE, should not even bother with this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    No it doesn't.

    First of all, there is no in game lore for marriage currently. SE has the choice of how to add it in, either with or without discrimination.

    Next, it is an arbitrary exclusion, not only against couples of the same gender, but also of couples of opposite gender who happen to play two characters the game recognizes as the same gender for no other reason than to placate small minded bigots.

    Lastly, his last sentence betrays his real objection. He calls it perversion. It is veiled homophobia. If you want to give rep to that and hop on that bandwagon, by all means have at it but don't think you'll be respected for it.
    Regardless of his real objection. I still think he's right. If you've read the past hundred pages you'd see how a lot of the arguments here aren't really about in game marriage but about Same sex marriage in real life. It was a nice way to bring the argument back into perspective.

    Also, everything began sounding repetitive long ago. I'm personally for implementing SSM, but think that if its looking like too much of a bother they should just bail on the whole idea.
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    Last edited by debola; 12-12-2012 at 02:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    This argument is still past it's prime, and is scraping the bottom of the barrel regardless of your rebuttal... As well this is far from a "small minded bigots" reason, if you are THAT keen on getting married play opposite gender's.. plain and simple... you know compromise? ever see that word, do you know it's meaning? If a system YOU want to be a part of, no on forcing you mind you... makes it so you must have 2 shoes same color on both your feet, you get with it or keep walking.

    As well your selective thinking is a clear indicator of how much of the big picture you see, you not only misunderstood the meaning of what i wrote but went ahead and made it sound bad... the reason alone that people can't draw the line is why SE, should not even bother with this...
    People fighting for equal rights shouldn't have to compromise those rights. That's why they are called equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debola View Post
    Regardless of his real objection. I still think he's right. If you've read the past hundred pages you'd see how a lot of the arguments here aren't really about in game marriage but about Same sex marriage in real life. It was a nice way to bring the argument back into perspective.
    Thats because Some keep wating to point everything in-game back to RL issues. Thanks for reminding us all that this isn't about RL, but about the game.
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