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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriSan View Post
    Agree. i hate backpadling aswell.
    Also how are u gonna see your character's face ever.
    like taking screenshots with your ls and stuff is gonna be past....

    "back pedaling" is a natural movement in real life.. (especially in combat)

    so why it shound be ingame? tell me more..



    and i know MANY MMorpgs who work like that.. Dark Age of camelot etc... and the movement is good.. i say why shouldnt i walk backwards with my character?



    it would look handicapped if i only were able to walk forwards... or are you doing like that in real life? JUST walking forward?

    strange opinions around here..
    hopefully Yoshi p. wont listen to those "shitty" voices and creates a NEW game, with MANY differences in comparison to 1.0.


    LET 1.0. FUCKING GO! God damn..
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 12-08-2012 at 06:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    hopefully Yoshi p. wont listen to those "shitty" voices and creates a NEW game, with MANY differences in comparison to 1.0.
    By "new" game, do you mean WoW? Because I have yet to hear a good argument from the pro-default-back-pedalling people that shows this is a good idea and no simply a scheme to make transition easier for WoW players who try the game out.

    1.0's setup was more natural, more aesthetical and made more sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    By "new" game, do you mean WoW? Because I have yet to hear a good argument from the pro-default-back-pedalling people that shows this is a good idea and no simply a scheme to make transition easier for WoW players who try the game out.

    1.0's setup was more natural, more aesthetical and made more sense.
    natural? when you are fighting,and you are going to get some distance from your enemy, you turn your back to your enemy? sorry, its not natural for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    natural? when you are fighting,and you are going to get some distance from your enemy, you turn your back to your enemy? sorry, its not natural for me
    Exactly.

    When you are fighting. I don't know about you, but 3/4s of my time, I am not fighting.
    So when you aren't? Do you feel it natural to be walking around, constantly back pedaling?
    You just made my point.

    1.0's system permits to narrow down back pedaling for when there's a target to back pedal from.

    Exactly as you said. Keep back pedaling linked to targeting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    Exactly.

    When you are fighting. I don't know about you, but 3/4s of my time, I am not fighting.
    So when you aren't? Do you feel it natural to be walking around, constantly back pedaling?
    You just made my point.

    1.0's system permits to narrow down back pedaling for when there's a target to back pedal from.

    Exactly as you said. Keep back pedaling linked to targeting.
    when not fighting?I turn my direction, what is the problem here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    when not fighting?I turn my direction, what is the problem here?
    Exactly. So if most of the time you aren't fighting, and when you aren't fighting you turn your direction,

    its very clear that it's more natural to turn by default and to back pedal only under certain circumstances (ergo: target or an extra button). Currently in 2.0 you ALWAYS pedal back when pressing back, and in order to turn around you need to press an extra button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    Exactly. So if most of the time you aren't fighting, and when you aren't fighting you turn your direction,

    its very clear that it's more natural to turn by default and to back pedal only under certain circumstances (ergo: target or an extra button). Currently in 2.0 you ALWAYS pedal back when pressing back, and in order to turn around you need to press an extra button.
    Yes, turn around. Not instantly flip directions in the blink of an eye. Hence what people have been saying about having to turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    natural? when you are fighting,and you are going to get some distance from your enemy, you turn your back to your enemy? sorry, its not natural for me
    wat. Did you even play this game? When you were fighting, you were locked onto your target most of the time, which enabled you to backpedal. Want to run? Simply lock out and move in whichever direction you want. You want to keep facing your target? Well, stay locked onto it. It's like people aren't aware that backpedaling was already in the game. What's being argued in this thread is not whether it should exist or not, but that it should NOT be the default. I think it should be left as it used to be as well. There are situations when you want to run away from something, and I don't want that to take any other extra steps.

    And to those who keep repeating you just have to turn your camera with your mouse, keep in mind that not everyone likes to play with one (I, for one, hate it and think it's completely out of place in most 3D games except FPSs) and that this will also be a console game.
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    Last edited by Klefth; 12-09-2012 at 04:32 AM. Reason: Bolded out the parts everyone seems to be ignoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    hopefully Yoshi p. wont listen to those "shitty" voices
    That's a nice argument you got going on there. If someone doesn't agree with you it's "Shitty" is it?

    Man I love people who just insult others to make their own ideas seem better. Yay humanity...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    it would look handicapped if i only were able to walk forwards
    Please, find and quote the person who is asking for us to only have the abillity to "Walk forwards" in 1.0 I could walk side-side, I could backpedal, and I could walk forward. In 2.0 you can Strafe, and backpedal, the only difference is that I no longer have a simple option to start running backwards like I normal human being can.

    Unless you stop to shuffle and turn everytime you move...the movement is now more restricting than it was in 1.0. I know people are hooked on the whole Mouse-movement option, but I don't see why your so hellbent on making everyone else use it. Chances are 2.0 will have 2-3 control schemes allowing keyboard and gamepad users to move-play similar to 1.0, They probably only have the Mouse-keyboard layout ready for Alpha.

    Should the knowledge of possible new control schemes on release stop us from pointing out this is not the favored playstyle of some? No, it shouldn't I will continue to voice my displeasure at the scheme as it's the only confirmed one we have. On the off chance SE doesn't give us different control schemes to use, as doubtfull as it is.

    But yeah...people who don't agree with you are "Shitty" voices though right? Feel free to explain that one to me when you get the chance to grow up and accept your opinion isn't law.
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