This is why Hardcore Content SUCKS.

[Amage]

So basically your saying should be easier and you should get everything a hardcore gets in shorter amount of time
so lets put it this way So if you work full time and have benefits from your job 401k medical/dental and you work
40+hr a week . Should a part timer or Seasonal worker get all these benefits just because thats my question to you
your answer is going to be the same thing why should someone that does 1/2 or 1/4 of the work

[TheVedis]

So basically your saying should be easier and you should get everything a hardcore gets in shorter amount of time
so lets put it this way So if you work full time and have benefits from your job 401k medical/dental and you work
40+hr a week . Should a part timer or Seasonal worker get all these benefits just because thats my question to you
your answer is going to be the same thing why should someone that does 1/2 or 1/4 of the work

I thought you knew

its only fair that someone working 40 hours a week make 50 dollars an hour
and the guy working 10 a week makes 200 an hour

how else can the part timer live

[Amage]

I thought you knew

its only fair that someone working 40 hours a week make 50 dollars an hour
and the guy working 10 a week makes 200 an hour

how else can the part timer live

Most part timers would make somewhat close what a full timer works

[TheVedis]

Most part timers would make somewhat close what a full timer works

i know...
i was making a joke

[Amage]

well then do u think they should get same as full time does or not
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[TheVedis]

well then do u think they should get same as full time does or not
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of course not

you get rewarded based on the ammount of time you work when it comes to anything time related
and your skill determines the scale beyond that



presonaly, in regards to the actual game though none of what is being done bothers me 1 bit and im about as hardcore as they come.
To access the content you must still level to it
to level to it you must still take tons of time
to actualy participate beyond that you must still have the proper gear for your class(to an extent)

so you still have to work to get to this stuff, who cares if it spawns often, i sure as hell dont. if anything it gives me more chances to klill stuff instead of waiting for days on end for a possible chance to do so.(ive never been a fan of NMs but do them when needed)

The next question down the line is how they will appraoch dungeons and thats what im waiting to hear on next

[Amage]

of course not

you get rewarded based on the ammount of time you work when it comes to anything time related
and your skill determines the scale beyond that



presonaly, in regards to the actual game though none of what is being done bothers me 1 bit and im about as hardcore as they come.
To access the content you must still level to it
to level to it you must still take tons of time
to actualy participate beyond that you must still have the proper gear for your class(to an extent)

so you still have to work to get to this stuff, who cares if it spawns often, i sure as hell dont. if anything it gives me more chances to klill stuff instead of waiting for days on end for a possible chance to do so.(ive never been a fan of NMs but do them when needed)

The next question down the line is how they will appraoch dungeons and thats what im waiting to hear on next

With other things on the way i dont go to much of a good feeling because i dont want Fafnir or Nidhogg to be 20-30 min spawn i want old days back

[Lahru_Hukurou]

The OP really seems to be playing the wrong game. Should go back to WoW or play another game that is more casual friendly than FFXIV. You should also use a bit of common sense when playing this game. If you played FFXI and camped NMs then you should think that the drop rate will possibly be about the same for NMs on FFXIV. Also, there are going to be a lot of people wanting to fight it, so just give it some time. Go and fight it when the "new" smell has worn off. Yes FFXIV is more casual friendly, but it isn't just for casual players.

As I have gotten older, my needs and wants in an mmo have changed. The time sink that FFXI was, was perfect for me when I was younger. Now that I'm older, my time is more precious to me, that is why I'm playing FFXIV now. If your time is precious, then spend your time in a smart way. Don't spend 2 hours on an NM when there is a possibility that you won't get the drop. I personally, wouldn't call that a waste of 2 hours, but the nature of drops don't really bother me. I'll just try to get the drop next time I feel like spending time on the NM. The fact that I don't have to spend all day camping an NM just so I can fight it, in hopes that I'll get the item that has an extremely low drop rate is a great thing to me. I've fought Leaping Lizzy, Jagged Ear Jack, and the Emperor Fly (w/e you call it). Didn't get the drop from any of them. Then I just started fighting some of the less camped NMs, selling the drops that I got from them for a rather nice profit.

It is all about being smart with your precious game time. If FFXIV isn't casual enough for you, go to a different game. I'm not saying that like an elitist or anything. Just saying that you should be playing a game that is worth your time. You sound like you want a game that isn't FF. I don't think that FFXIV will ever go with just having everything instanced. At least, I hope that they don't. I want some instancing in this game, but not everything. WoW really isn't all that bad of a game, can't stand the graphics, but I see the game's mass appeal. They have the dungeons you're asking for and you're more likely than not to get the drops that you need. Personally WoW was too casual for me. That's why I'm here on FFXIV.

[TheVedis]

With other things on the way i dont go to much of a good feeling because i dont want Fafnir or Nidhogg to be 20-30 min spawn i want old days back

or instead of making them world NMs make them bosses at the end of a dungeon......

[SilvertearRen]

Some people here apparently didn't read the part where I said I threw out the WoW disc into the yard burn pile.

And I'm not asking to be "given" something for trying. I'm trying to say that the format for the NMs are wrong. That, and the idea that we casuals dont' seem to earn ANYTHING for wasting two hours on a single mob. I'd explain more, but I just woke up and I'm not exactly in the mood to get all grumpy - not with such a nice morning~