This is why Hardcore Content SUCKS.

[Peregrine]

People complaining that new content is overcamped and overused is hillarious. Hell I remember when they first introduce the "Adventuring companion" in XI. I waited for hours for my turn in the massive line of people lining up for the instanced fight that could only be done...

One person at a time.

What was that one event where it was so bottlenecked to enter a BC dragon fight that we actually formed player-character lines in front of its door instead of all spamming the door? Great moments in MMO history.

'course when someone just ran straight up and went in it all went to hell.

[Lenneth_Valkyrie]

Now, aside from the fact that the OP is complaining about new content being crowded.. which is pretty normal.. I have to point a few things out..
Some of you didn't even realize you've been calling it "work" in the game..

You do not "work" in a game, you play.. it's different..
A game shouldn't be a source of stress.. it should relieve it.. that's the whole purpose of a game being a game and not a job.. in other words.. if I'm being already stressed out by my job why should a game stress me out even more..?

Sometimes the way hardcores speak sounds like as if they were blaming casuals for having a job.. and the message I get is "drop your job or you won't do crap in this game..", that's not very constructive..

[Peregrine]

Now, aside from the fact that the OP is complaining about new content being crowded.. which is pretty normal.. I have to point a few things out..
Some of you didn't even realize you've been calling it "work" in the game..

You do not "work" in a game, you play.. it's different..
A game shouldn't be a source of stress.. it should relieve it.. that's the whole purpose of a game being a game and not a work.. in other words.. if I'm being already stressed out by my job why should a game stress me out even more..?

Sometimes the way hardcores speak sounds like as if they were blaming casuals for having a job.. and the message I get is "drop your job or you won't do crap in this game..", that's not very constructive..

Well they're not very constructive people, which is why they've build such compensatory sand castles in the air. Big fish in a little pond. Dunking on 5th graders. Short man syndrome.

It's psychology, maaaaaan.

[Dubont]

Some of you didn't even realize you've been calling it "work" in the game..

You do not "work" in a game, you play.. it's different..
A game shouldn't be a source of stress.. it should relieve it.. that's the whole purpose of a game being a game and not a work.. in other words.. if I'm being already stressed out by my job why should a game stress me out even more..?

Sometimes the way hardcores speak sounds like as if they were blaming casuals for having a job.. and the message I get is "drop your job or you won't do crap in this game..", that's not very constructive..

true that isn't constructive, but at the same time, it's not a good thing to try and dumb down the game because you don't have time to play. Some of us have more time to play than others and we actually want stuff to do during that time. This is kind of like in FFXI..."hardcore" content were HNMs and such. "Casual" content consisted of Sky, Dynamis, etc. I would like to see something like this in FFXIV. The lesser content will still give good gear, but not as good as the gear that is awarded to those that put more effort into the game due to their lack of time restrictions.

[Yellow]

Can people please for the love of God stop generalising & stereotyping 'Hardcore' players and 'Casual' players.

It's old and annoying.

If you only have 2 hours to play a videogame you CANNOT complain that someone who is playing 5 hours + is further than you.

[Lenneth_Valkyrie]

true that isn't constructive, but at the same time, it's not a good thing to try and dumb down the game because you don't have time to play. Some of us have more time to play than others and we actually want stuff to do during that time. This is kind of like in FFXI..."hardcore" content were HNMs and such. "Casual" content consisted of Sky, Dynamis, etc. I would like to see something like this in FFXIV. The lesser content will still give good gear, but not as good as the gear that is awarded to those that put more effort into the game due to their lack of time restrictions.

That's not very much the case of FFXI.. I remember you were required to have some gear in order to get invited in a party.. and the one that money could buy wasn't enough.. people there got too elitist about the equipment.. like "if you don't have the best gear you suck.."

If you only have 2 hours to play a videogame you CANNOT complain that someone who is playing 5 hours + is further than you.

It's not about who is further and who's behind.. it's about who can and who cannot..

[Betelgeuzah]

I don't mind competition like this, in fact I find it rather enjoyable. While I didn't really like Nm's in XI, I liked camping stroper chyme. The competition was fierce but the low repop time made sure that you always got a new chance soon after. With NM's that take hours to pop, it was just too over-the-top. While I am not that casual, I don't feel like wasting my time just waiting for something to happen.

Although, I don't know how the new claiming system will function with these NM's.

[Yellow]

Example.
You are playing Final Fantasy IV, but you don't have enough time to level.

You don't complain to the developers saying you don't have enough time to level up and kill the final boss, make it easier pl0x.

I do have to agree with some points made.


Making people grind on monsters to get items isn't a very well thought of idea.

Being a 'Hardcore' player doesn't make you more likely to get it.

It's more or less, if you are a lucky player.


Also --

Since when does camping HNM/NMs make you hardcore?

I'm pretty sure that:

1. They have lots of time on their hands.
2. They're lucky they got there before someone else.

:S

[Mudd]

I spent two hours trying to get the armor drop from Kokoroon Quickfingers, and I only had ONE CLAIM. ONE CLAIM. WITH A PARTY OF FOUR.

You know, those NM's will be there for like..

Ever..
You can come back in a week. No one demanded that you do so now, on the day of release.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

People complaining that new content is overcamped and overused is hillarious. Hell I remember when they first introduce the "Adventuring companion" in XI. I waited for hours for my turn in the massive line of people lining up for the instanced fight that could only be done...

One person at a time.

i found it funny people formed a straight line during that.... in a huge zone to walk around in ppl stood in a line ON a game '
best memmory even lol i laughed so hard when I saw that.