New Race! Ronso? Yes please.

[Zantetsuken]

uhhh yeah I have...and fran maybe. but again i state...it's a bunny. unless we go all Monty Python on this

Viera are the Ivalician equivalent of Elezen but with personalities that are similar to Padjal.

To call them "bunnies" is an ignorant dismissal of the profound and detailed work that the FFXII dev team put into their lore, visual design, voice acting, culture and environment.

If only the Ronso had as much effort put into their design.

[valetarkus]

Viera are the Ivalician equivalent of Elezen but with personalities that are similar to Padjal.

To call them "bunnies" is an ignorant dismissal of the profound and detailed work that the FFXII dev team put into their lore, visual design, voice acting, culture and environment.

If only the Ronso had as much effort put into their design.

how is that profound and detailed? They just humans with bunny ears. Which you must be blind because...those are bunny ears last time anyone checked.
This guy's all butt hurt because no one wants to play as a rabbit-man. congrats

[Zantetsuken]

how is that profound and detailed? They just humans with bunny ears. Which you must be blind because...those are bunny ears last time anyone checked.

You might want to actually read what you are quoting before responding.

[...]profound and detailed work that the FFXII dev team put into their lore, visual design, voice acting, culture and environment.

The FFXII team took what should have been a cheap cliche in character design (bunny girls), and instead made a somber, insulated, and highly spiritual race out of it.

If you had actually played FFXII, you might have noticed this. But you seem like the type to skip over cutscenes and other relevant info (see above), so I'll post an example here for your convenience.

In contrast, the Ronso are primitive-minded clods that spend most of their time comparing "horn length". They ARE a cheap cliche -- a 1-dimensional, brutish tribe with no substantive lore to speak of. Sadly, this is also true of a majority of races in FFX; a symptom of the style-over-substance approach taken in the development of that game.


It's actually quite useful to compare Khimari and Fran. They are both are exiles from their respective tribes, and they are both forced to confront this in the course of their storylines.

One was handled masterfully, the other was treated like a cheap plot device. For better or for worse, those treatments have determined who the Ronso and the Viera are in FF lore.

[Shougun]

You might want to actually read what you are quoting before responding.



The FFXII team took what should have been a cheap cliche in character design (bunny girls), and instead made a somber, insulated, and highly spiritual race out of it.

If you had actually played FFXII, you might have noticed this. But you seem like the type to skip over cutscenes and other relevant info (see above), so I'll post an example here for your convenience.

In contrast, the Ronso are primitive-minded clods that spend most of their time comparing "horn length". They ARE a cheap cliche -- a 1-dimensional, brutish tribe with no substantive lore to speak of. Sadly, this is also true of a majority of races in FFX; a symptom of the style-over-substance approach taken in the development of that game.


It's actually quite useful to compare Khimari and Fran. They are both are exiles from their respective tribes, and they are both forced to confront this in the course of their storylines.

One was handled masterfully, the other was treated like a cheap plot device. For better or for worse, those treatments have determined who the Ronso and the Viera are in FF lore.

Perhaps its my love of the model design but didnt feel one was masterful and the other was not.

The primitive speak is part of the character.. doesnt mean 'talks better is better'. I'd prefer Ronso over Viera because we already have the "sex" race (not that I wouldnt mind if both were added, depending on how big they make the world of Erozea we could have lots of races - which could help in the end make peoples identities as combinations would be less common).

Overall whatever character next I feel it needs to be mysterious (visually) and or monstrous (bestial, demonic, draconic, something rough and in line with the Roe, farther away from the pretty team (the other races)).

Something in an extreme of "woah" as we got "boom boom mithras" and the "in every MMO races" already, a serious challenge but I think a Yuke/Vivi race is possible (a lot of nuances would be important here) or just adding as I said a monsterish race. Even then I think there is still room for more races, just at this time we have cute, sexy, and normal.

Add Ronso and another small sized race. Vivi from FF9 for an example. Facial emotes would be easy to make, but just seeing him open and close his eyes would be worth it. One of my favourite character throughout the ff series. XD.

The hard part is picturing him in a different class than magic though.

Vivi in armor would prety much be a Yuke lol. I mean they arent really the same (if you read the lore) but visually its like hmmm.. you pretty similar... lol (Yukes are skinnier)

I think there are a lot of unique nuances (lots of eye tweaks, body shape options, wings options (Yukes have) perhaps how the shadows underneath "flow" (in body shapes you could be fat like vivi or skinnier like Yukes)) you could work with to make them a bit different from each other, though SE may not want to create a race that doesnt really have a face. (Since armor is their face). It would be quite a challenge.