Why Casual Friendly Would Stop ARR From Dying

[Andrien]

if you have no time then don't play. how hard is that. casuals already ruining mmo's more and more with every mmo that launches and there hasn't been a truly successful mmo since they started trying to accommodate you. simply put if you don't put things together, parties in mmo's now, that means you never will and you will always want the type of players that will put things together in your mmo's(or the need for more and more easier and solo content, gw2 failure) ...but they leave cause the mmo is to your liking not theirs and then you leave too if not left already [B]cause you think a mmo is just like any other shitty offline game.

when you cancel a mmo payment (aka quit game or take a small leave) they should pop up a questionnaire just like the ones that pop up when you try to delete some software off your computer. that way SE and all mmo companies will know exactly why they are losing people, but in reality i think they know.

casuals leave regularly, hardcore leave cause the game sucks and to easy and nothing to do, everyone else leaves cause we are the life and soul of a mmo. /end for the mmo and it goes f2p.

separate servers as i mentioned a million times in a million posts in a million forums for a million mmo's but anyway. till they listen they can keep failing mmo's. top to bottom it must be made for hardcore not casual and then do as you please to lower settings for the others. what is the worste that will happen? casuals beat the mmo and try out hard mode? or quit like they would of anyway but you still got all the hardcore playing for years and years.

This is complete and utter nonsense. This thread of full of bias one-sided mentality.

Okay so, you basically blame casual players for ruining mmos? I wonder who you'll blame for the FFXIV original launch. You know what, even the most successful MMORPG is casual friendly. The bottom line is, the entire argument in this thread is really a none issue, because it all boils down to how the developers produce the contents.

People that like the Final Fantasy franchise and wants to try FFXIV ARR for the first time. Square Enix as a company have to attract and gain the trust of those fans after a poorly launch FFXIV 1.xx. FFXIV ARR have to cater to all audiences, not just one or the other. The game has to be fun, and their must be some form of progression to keep people playing.

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This is complete and utter nonsense. This thread of full of bias one-sided mentality.

Okay so, you basically blame casual players for ruining mmos? I wonder who you'll blame for the FFXIV original launch. You know what, even the most successful MMORPG is casual friendly. The bottom line is, the entire argument in this thread is really a none issue, because it all boils down to how the developers produce the contents.

People that like the Final Fantasy franchise and wants to try FFXIV ARR for the first time. Square Enix as a company have to attract and gain the trust of those fans after a poorly launch FFXIV 1.xx. FFXIV ARR have to cater to all audiences, not just one or the other. The game has to be fun, and their must be some form of progression to keep people playing.

how am i bias, you picked out lines from a very long thread i made with my opinions mixed in it. but there was tons of non opinionated thoughts in it that aren't bias. i said make it for all players. but that includes non casuals. start "scientificly, mathematically and logically" by making it for hardcore and then "yep dumb it down" for the rest. this means everyone plays happy.

just cause i think you as a casual is a fuk tard don't mean my thread didn't make sense to any normal human being. ffxiv first fail had nothing to do with casual friendly it had to do with no content. a broken server engine that they couldn't do anything with and still launched an empty broken game that they had problems adding things too. then problem now will be that, that gave the loud mouths on forums more power then they should have. most players don't vote on forums or talk on them or whatever else. they cancel and log out and never come back.

in the end if i'm biased then it is from 10years of mmo's that suck and unenjoyment and bitterness. listening to this garbage talk on these forums that mmo companies are stupid enough to listen too cause they truely want it to be true. they want casuals by the millions and they want hardcore to play just cause what else they gonna do, not play?

just like movies and tv programs mmo's are trending to try and get more and more types of players but ...guess what it's not a 1movie in theater they can trick people into watching once in theater. it's a monthly, (like a tv series) and it will get canceled ..over and over and over cause we see it as it is...shit.

like i said add a questionnaire at the cancel button in the manage account page and they will know exactly why people leave.

[Andrien]

how am i bias, you picked out lines from a very long thread i made with my opinions in it. but there was tons of non opinionated thoughts in it that aren't bias. i said make it for all players. but that includes non casuals. start "scientificly, mathematically and logically" by making it for hardcore and then "yep dumb it down" for the rest. this means everyone plays happy.

just cause i think you as a casual is a fuk tard don't mean my thread didn't make sense to any normal human being. ffxiv first fail had nothing to do with casual friendly it had to do with no content. a broken server engine that they couldn't do anything with and still launched an empty broken game that they had problems adding things too. then problem now will be that, that gave the loud mouths on forums more power then they should have. most players don't vote on forums or talk on them or whatever else. they cancel and log out and never come back.

in the end if i'm biased then it is from 10years of mmo's that suck and unenjoyment and bitterness. listening to this garbage talk on these forums that mmo companies are stupid enough to listen too cause they truely want it to be true. they want casuals by the millions and they want hardcore to play just cause what else they gonna do, not play?

just like movies and tv programs mmo's are trending to try and get more and more types of players but ...guess what it's not a 1movie in theater they can trick people into watching once in theater. it's a monthly, (like a tv series) and it will get canceled ..over and over and over cause we see it as it is...shit.

like i said add a questionnaire at the cancel button in the manage account page and they will know exactly why people leave.

It all depends on how the developers implement and produce the contents. It has nothing to do with the players really is what I'm getting at. We just have to play them and if the content is engaging it'll keep everyone hooked.

I think the questionnaire is a great idea.