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    Whats important, is that the testers do their best to make sure ARR is in the best shape possible. No matter who they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gugnir View Post
    Whats important, is that the testers do their best to make sure ARR is in the best shape possible. No matter who they are.
    ^^ THIS --- Yes please... this is all it matters for these testing stages, as long as finished product comes out the way it should be... not like ver 1.0 release and enough content to keep new players in we should be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    I feel much less willing to be forgiving if the mistake is swept under the rug without so much as a word, though.
    I don't think it really was swept under the rug, tbh, it just made an impression of this happening. Whether there will be an explanation from SE or not, idk. I hope there is, else the negative impression will stay, and nobody wants that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gugnir View Post
    Whats important, is that the testers do their best to make sure ARR is in the best shape possible. No matter who they are.
    Pretty much my stance. If I get selected, fine, if not, then not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gugnir View Post
    Whats important, is that the testers do their best to make sure ARR is in the best shape possible. No matter who they are.
    Who they are matters quite a lot. It's rather obvious that those that decided to stick with the game this far will statistically test ARR more thoroughly than some random that quit years ago.

    By accepting inactive accounts SE lowered the statistical efficiency of the alpha test by quite a lot.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 11-27-2012 at 08:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Who they are matters quite a lot. It's rather obvious that those that decided to stick with the game this far will statistically test ARR more thoroughly than some random that quit years ago.

    By accepting inactive accounts SE lowered the statistical efficiency of the alpha test by quite a lot.
    That random tester might help to keep 10,000 subs for SE by helping to make the game more user friendly for people with short attention spans. I'm sure, in all their wisdom the devs know what their doing. So, I take it on faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gugnir View Post
    That random tester, might help to keep 10,000 subs for SE by helping to make the game more user friendly for people with short attention spans. I'm sure, in all their wisdom the devs know what their doing. So, I take it on faith.
    I'm sure Yoshida would tell you that blind faith is a very bad idea when talking about the development of a game. That kind of random tester focused on user friendliness isn't suitable for an alpha, as alphas are by definition *not* user friendly. Inviting him is just a wasted slot, while it could be useful in later stages where the game is more accessible and his feedack (assuming that he'll provide any, as that kind of user normally doesn't) can be used to fine tune the game.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 11-27-2012 at 08:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    I'm sure Yoshida would tell you that blind faith is a very bad idea when talking about the development of a game. That kind of random tester focused on user friendliness isn't suitable for an alpha, as alphas are by definition *not* user friendly. Inviting him is just a wasted slot, while it could be useful in later stages where the game is more accessible and his feedack (assuming that he'll provide any, as that kind of user normally doesn't) can be used to fine tune the game.
    I agree, that blind faith can be bad but Yoshi and co, have earned my respect with their tireless efforts so I have faith in them they made the right choice for ARR. I'm not going to pretend I know what criteria they chose to use for inviting or qualifying people but there is a reason behind it.
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