Enough is Enough

[Steggun]

I don't think you'll get far asking for ideas. Someone is going to list an idea and then people who are more casual will swarm in bashing the idea and then people who are more hardcore will swarm in bashing the people doing the original bashing because hardcore is more important than casual. lol, make sense? A call to senses never works. Ever.

They just have to decide what kind of player base they want. The ones that can only play 30 minutes per day, the ones that play 2 hours per day, the ones that play 6+ hours per day, or a mixture of all three.

Due to time constraints I'm able to play around 2 hours per day, but on weekends I can play for extended periods of time. I'd like content where I can do stuff in a 2 hour period and pick up where I left off the next day, but at the same time have somethings where I can really put effort into on the weekends.

I'm sure SE will figure it out so that we can get a mixture of both demands. I'm even more sure that they are aware of what the players want. They do read these threads...

Yeah, I guess I was just hoping people were tired of flaming each other and would be able to begin to realize that what's best for this game is somewhere in the middle of both extremes. SE could never make everyone happy, that is why we must compromise.

I know the mods read the forums, but how likely are they to find any actual ideas when all we have are 50+ page threads of people flaming each other with maybe one or two posts that are actually worth reading.

[Kaedan]

Yeah, I guess I was just hoping people were tired of flaming each other and would be able to begin to realize that what's best for this game is somewhere in the middle of both extremes. SE could never make everyone happy, that is why we must compromise.

I know the mods read the forums, but how likely are they to find any actual ideas when all we have are 50+ page threads of people flaming each other with maybe one or two posts that are actually worth reading.

I've been supportive of the this for a long time... but the problem is there are a lot more vocal people on the two extremes than in the middle. I still think this is a good thread and hope it won't degenerate.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

i'm not asking for content for any one player you guys are
youi want seperate content that is asking for personal content
you don;t need to seperate the content to any 1 group, as long as all content is fun abd worth doing everyone should get acess to it
ffxi did the seperate limiting thing, and that game isn;t doing so well.
I don't want ffxiv to end up like ffxi. I couldn't even do the "hardcore" content due to so few people who could access it.

Sorry but we shouldn't segragate players based on time. Thats stupid. Its a game guys, not life, not work. Its only meant to be a fun activity. Its not fun playing a game for 12+ hours and doing nothing because not enough players to do much.

That is what will happen with content separation. Why can't guys understand that you have false assupmtions on casuals. And are chastising them for no reason. I was a casual player once and I wanted to do everything in the game. I couldn't and spent money to get more time. And even still i couldn't do much of anything.

[Xatsh]

The issue is casual content is not fun. That is why I am playing a mmo and not an offline game.

[Dreamer]

*hands out cookies*

[Kilta_Firelotus]

I And english is my first language i'm just tyoing a mile a min and make mistakes. But i understand perfectly. Who guys are not. And the reason why your not is based on false assumptions.

You guys also are to into hating "that game" and feel the only have to have content for all is to make it "easy". And that isn't the case. And for the record. Longer dungeons are not harder dungeons. You can have hard dungeons with time limits and have gear be earned slowly. But there is no reason one person should have acess to 100% of the game where another has only 90% acess.

Why do you think ffxi wasn't THAT popular? Because of the content you guys want. I want ffxiv to be popular so there is no issues in finding players to do content. That should be hard to ask not insulted at.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

The issue is casual content is not fun. That is why I am playing a mmo and not an offline game.

what is you deffinition of casual content?
and how do you even know I'm asking for that.
Do you know how silly that sound, how do you even know.

how can you make an assumption like that. This is what I dislike. Silly false assumptions.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

just because everyone does have acces to content don't mean it is "casual content" Can we just drop the lables and have an adult convo? can we drop the "high and mighty" attitudes you guys are giving off. I'm not trying to sound high and mighty myself. But i don't feel a game should be seperated by time spent. It is not by choice that people can't spend all their free time on an mmo. So why punish them? What makes someone with time feel more worthy to have their own content?

I can play for 20 hours. I don't feel I need content for me. I just want content to do with other players. I play an mmo to have fun with other players. And if we limit what players can do all because of their sceduals than that is not so fun. As there is less people to group with and have fun with.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

And you are also limiting those with free time fron the same content.
there will not be enough players for the "play longer" content. So some people still miss out. How is that fun? We all paid for ffxiv myself included.
We all want a fun game myself included. Take time to think before you post. Think on how sepereated content truely effects the player base as a whole. I seen what happens first hand when content is seperated. And its not fun at all.

[Pangy]

Quadruple post!!

Most hardcore thing I've ever seen.


I think the most aggravating aspect of these threads is not the flaming, name calling, derailing, insulting nature of them- I'm more bothered by the amount of people who aren't playing the game at all.

I'm glad we've got such a passionate community...I think. But it's becoming increasingly obvious that XIV's community and its player base don't have all that much in common.

I'll welcome any and all content implemented. If something takes a lot of time I'll plan around it. The people that I'm playing FFXIV with are supportive, organized, and fun, and I look forward to scheduling events with them---both short and long in duration.