Thread of dispair

[Nix]

So there's the full NDA. TY so much for clearing that.

SO! you can't say you're an alpha tester, but you can still say you got the mail invite since "This Agreement shall be effective as of the date that the Alpha Tester accepts the terms and conditions of this Agreement." That is, if you do it before you agree to this lol

I think to put in the app you have to agree to the NDA? it's not a loop hole I'd be willing to test though! lol

[Exn]

Here's the /entire/ NDA:
http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...a=1&tag=tester

I especially like this part

You're welcome <3

Whoa, looks like I may stand party corrected on this. I was referring to the official XI forums btw, and of course our LS website. I am at work and can't pull that link up, but if you could copy/paste the first part of that (not a-c, but the blurb that is referencing you down to part d. in the first place).

Again tho, you can still say whether or not you recieved an email for invitation (my original point). Though, that line you quoted states you can not mention if you accepted the invitation, if you've already accepted it.

[SirEdeonX]

I think to put in the app you have to agree to the NDA? it's not a loop hole I'd be willing to test though! lol

EXACTLY! XD

[Nix]

Whoa, looks like I may stand party corrected on this. I was referring to the official XI forums btw, and of course our LS website. I am at work and can't pull that link up, but if you could copy/paste the first part of that (not a-c, but the blurb that is referencing you down to part d. in the first place).

Again tho, you can still say whether or not you recieved an email for invitation (my original point). Though, that line you quoted states you can not mention if you accepted the invitation, if you've already accepted it.

Sure pumpkin! oooone second~

2.6 Alpha Tester’s Confidentiality Obligations “Confidential Information” shall mean (a) any and all information relating to or contained in the Products, Software, Documentation, or other materials supplied to Alpha Tester by Company in connection with the Alpha Testing, including, without limitation, information relating to the performance, conditions, capabilities, and contents of the Products and Software, methods of reporting and conducting, modification schedule, modification process and its progress in the Alpha Testing, AND RECIPIENT’S FEEDBACK, OPINIONS, SUGGESTIONS, AND COMMENTS (POSITIVE AND/OR NEGATIVE) REGARDING THE PRODUCT AND THE SOFTWARE, (b) the existence and the terms of this Agreement, (c) the Square Enix ID and password used by Alpha Tester, or by any other Alpha Tester, (d) THE IDENTITY OF ALPHA TESTER AND THE FACT THAT ALPHA TESTER IS PARTICIPATING IN THE ALPHA TEST, and (e) any and all information relating to the future or proposed products, services, or business operations of Company. Confidential Information includes, without limitation, all such information disclosed to Alpha Tester prior to the execution of this Agreement. Alpha Tester acknowledges and agrees that the Confidential Information constitutes valuable trade secrets of Company and (subject to the other terms of this Section 2.6) agrees to keep Confidential all Confidential Information, and only use Confidential Information in connection with Alpha Tester’s participation in the Alpha Test.

(Is that the part you're lookin for? D:, I'm a tad confoozd!)

Another quick edit: There's also this blurb at the top! (Can't remember hide tags @_@ lol)

Square Enix, Inc. (“Square Enix”, “Company”, “us” or “we”) is planning to conduct various rounds of Alpha Testing of the upcoming massively multiplayer online role playing game FINAL FANTASY® XIV: A Realm Reborn™ (“FINAL FANTASY XIV” or “Service”). From all of the applicants, we will select (in our sole discretion) a group of individuals to serve as Alpha Testers who may participate in one or more rounds of Alpha Testing of FINAL FANTASY XIV prior to its public release and to provide us with certain feedback on their experience.
Please read and agree to the following terms and conditions, if you wish to be eligible to participate in the Alpha Testing. However, we do not guarantee that you will be selected to participate in the Alpha Testing.
All applicants are required to have a Square Enix ID prior to submitting their application.
ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO IS 18 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER MAY BECOME ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS ALPHA TEST BY ACCEPTING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT BY SELECTING THE “ACCEPT” BUTTON. BY SELECTING THE “ACCEPT” BUTTON, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE READ, UNDERSTOOD, AND ACCEPTED THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT.

[TomCarroll]

Anyone who whines about not getting an invite probably wouldn't have been a good tester anyway.

Just throwing that out there.

[Exn]

Sure pumpkin! oooone second~

2.6 Alpha Tester’s Confidentiality Obligations “Confidential Information” shall mean (a) any and all information relating to or contained in the Products, Software, Documentation, or other materials supplied to Alpha Tester by Company in connection with the Alpha Testing, including, without limitation, information relating to the performance, conditions, capabilities, and contents of the Products and Software, methods of reporting and conducting, modification schedule, modification process and its progress in the Alpha Testing, AND RECIPIENT’S FEEDBACK, OPINIONS, SUGGESTIONS, AND COMMENTS (POSITIVE AND/OR NEGATIVE) REGARDING THE PRODUCT AND THE SOFTWARE, (b) the existence and the terms of this Agreement, (c) the Square Enix ID and password used by Alpha Tester, or by any other Alpha Tester, (d) THE IDENTITY OF ALPHA TESTER AND THE FACT THAT ALPHA TESTER IS PARTICIPATING IN THE ALPHA TEST, and (e) any and all information relating to the future or proposed products, services, or business operations of Company. Confidential Information includes, without limitation, all such information disclosed to Alpha Tester prior to the execution of this Agreement. Alpha Tester acknowledges and agrees that the Confidential Information constitutes valuable trade secrets of Company and (subject to the other terms of this Section 2.6) agrees to keep Confidential all Confidential Information, and only use Confidential Information in connection with Alpha Tester’s participation in the Alpha Test.

(Is that the part you're lookin for? D:, I'm a tad confoozd!)

Another quick edit: There's also this blurb at the top! (Can't remember hide tags @_@ lol)

Square Enix, Inc. (“Square Enix”, “Company”, “us” or “we”) is planning to conduct various rounds of Alpha Testing of the upcoming massively multiplayer online role playing game FINAL FANTASY® XIV: A Realm Reborn™ (“FINAL FANTASY XIV” or “Service”). From all of the applicants, we will select (in our sole discretion) a group of individuals to serve as Alpha Testers who may participate in one or more rounds of Alpha Testing of FINAL FANTASY XIV prior to its public release and to provide us with certain feedback on their experience.
Please read and agree to the following terms and conditions, if you wish to be eligible to participate in the Alpha Testing. However, we do not guarantee that you will be selected to participate in the Alpha Testing.
All applicants are required to have a Square Enix ID prior to submitting their application.
ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO IS 18 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER MAY BECOME ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS ALPHA TEST BY ACCEPTING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT BY SELECTING THE “ACCEPT” BUTTON. BY SELECTING THE “ACCEPT” BUTTON, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE READ, UNDERSTOOD, AND ACCEPTED THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT.

Yeah thanks, that was most of it, I was trying to see how they used the term "confidential information" but I can see the general gist from that. It's enough to scare most people from even mentioning whether or not they received an invitation, however it does not violate the NDA according to that. Can't blame other people for not wanting to 'risk' it I guess, but in the event I ever get an invite, I'll come let you guys know and be that 'guinea pig' for ya.

P.S. Yo SE you could put it all to rest now and send me an invite .. I come back and post that I got invite.. you do what u do (ignore it cuz it don't violate NDA or ban the hella outta me for violating some part of the NDA that's been overlooked!). I can then post the result of said experiment on one of my alts! LOL It's perfect SE, just trust me on this.

[NefarioCall]

[RexValentino]

awww

Since we don't know whether the emails go out all at once or over time throughout the day, i'm going to hold onto my hope and not get disappointed until i check my email tomorrow morning and have nothing. Though even then i'll get over it and wait for the next batch of emails to go out.

[Hulan]

Yeah thanks, that was most of it, I was trying to see how they used the term "confidential information" but I can see the general gist from that. It's enough to scare most people from even mentioning whether or not they received an invitation, however it does not violate the NDA according to that. Can't blame other people for not wanting to 'risk' it I guess, but in the event I ever get an invite, I'll come let you guys know and be that 'guinea pig' for ya.

P.S. Yo SE you could put it all to rest now and send me an invite .. I come back and post that I got invite.. you do what u do (ignore it cuz it don't violate NDA or ban the hella outta me for violating some part of the NDA that's been overlooked!). I can then post the result of said experiment on one of my alts! LOL It's perfect SE, just trust me on this.

I can't say for certain, since it will not let me into the application page anymore for whatever reason, but I believe we signed the NDA when we applied. Meaning receiving the acceptance letter is after the signing of the NDA.

[Exn]

I can't say for certain, since it will not let me into the application page anymore for whatever reason, but I believe we signed the NDA when we applied. Meaning receiving the acceptance letter is after the signing of the NDA.

No, that's in the email. It directs you to their forums and to the tester acceptance page where you review all that stuff. I'm not sure I'd be allowed to copy/pasta the invitation email (it aint even my invitation...) but yea, it's in there.