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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    They're not censoring your email account, they're censoring people opening their mouths about alpha. I can't find ARR's NDA for the life of me (I'm sleepy as sin and still lots of work to do, so I'm extra dopey right now), though the clause was there for the 1.0 alpha (oops, there's me opening my big mouth!). You'll notice the whole lack of people talking about if they're in alpha - because of the NDA. Take it as a rumor if you will, but we know otherwise~
    Yea, guess I'll just have to continue to view it as rumor.. I was also in 1.0 closed alpha/beta, and open beta, and was freely talking about it (not the actual alpha or closed beta, but that the fact we were busy testing and had to miss various XI events at the time). In fact I remember a whole thread of people excited about their anticipation to start testing for 1.0 somewhat bragging about getting an invitation.. Obviously neither I, nor did any of my LS mates, receive any warning for talking about how excited we were to be able to test. You guys are just going slightly overboard on the NDA.. but whatever, as you say, better safe than sorry I guess?
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    Edeon Vails
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    They're not censoring your email account, they're censoring people opening their mouths about alpha and receiving an invite to the alpha is classed as information about alpha. Pretty much everything alpha-related after you send in your app is top secret. I can't find ARR's NDA for the life of me (I'm sleepy as sin and still lots of work to do, so I'm extra dopey right now), though the clause was there for the 1.0 alpha (oops, there's me opening my big mouth!). You'll notice the whole lack of people talking about if they're in alpha - because of the NDA. Take it as a rumor if you will, but we know otherwise~
    Alpha site:
    As stated in the “FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Tester Agreement,” testers are prohibited from publicizing any proprietary information related to the Alpha Test on external sites. In the event that we confirm that infringement has occurred, your rights to be a tester will be revoked and your FINAL FANTASY XIV account will be suspended.
    We will announce if and when Alpha Test-related details can be publicized, so please take great care in their handling until they have been made public. For feedback and discussions between testers, please use the dedicated tester forum, which will open at a later date.

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    As Exn said, whether or not you got an invitation is not a proprietary information. What they mean by proprietary information is any information that they own rights to, that is, any content from alpha. Saying you got an invite, or even if you accept the invite and are playing alpha is not violating the NDA, that's just a rumour.
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    I'm almost certain if they just released a character creator standalone 96% of the complaining would stop. However, to be honest I've been in various mmo alphas... they have all sucked. If anything you just get more bored with the game come launch because it doesn't feel as "new". I do understand people being upset though I didn't get an invite this round either, but I couldn't care less. This is because not all the character creator races/features are implemented yet so odds are I'd be stuck testing on a character I really hate to look at. If I don't get in until beta, fine with me XD
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    If whatever you're shooting doesn't die after you pump 8, 32 caliber, slugs into it, it's probably a dragon.

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    Anyone know if they're done sending out invites? I'd prefer not to check my email if I know I have 0% chance of getting one. :/
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    Quit the entitlement shit. The alpha isn't a full game where people hop in to just prance around in enjoyment land. It's to test, and fix the game so we can have a better one. Man people sometimes.
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    Here's the /entire/ NDA:
    http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...a=1&tag=tester

    I especially like this part

    (d) THE IDENTITY OF ALPHA TESTER AND THE FACT THAT ALPHA TESTER IS PARTICIPATING IN THE ALPHA TEST, and (e) any and all information relating to the future or proposed products, services, or business operations of Company. Confidential Information includes, without limitation, all such information disclosed to Alpha Tester prior to the execution of this Agreement. Alpha Tester acknowledges and agrees that the Confidential Information constitutes valuable trade secrets of Company and (subject to the other terms of this Section 2.6) agrees to keep Confidential all Confidential Information, and only use Confidential Information in connection with Alpha Tester’s participation in the Alpha Test.
    You're welcome <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    Here's the /entire/ NDA:
    http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...a=1&tag=tester

    I especially like this part

    You're welcome <3
    So there's the full NDA. TY so much for clearing that.

    SO! you can't say you're an alpha tester, but you can still say you got the mail invite since "This Agreement shall be effective as of the date that the Alpha Tester accepts the terms and conditions of this Agreement." That is, if you do it before you agree to this lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirEdeonX View Post
    So there's the full NDA. TY so much for clearing that.

    SO! you can't say you're an alpha tester, but you can still say you got the mail invite since "This Agreement shall be effective as of the date that the Alpha Tester accepts the terms and conditions of this Agreement." That is, if you do it before you agree to this lol
    I think to put in the app you have to agree to the NDA? it's not a loop hole I'd be willing to test though! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    I think to put in the app you have to agree to the NDA? it's not a loop hole I'd be willing to test though! lol
    EXACTLY! XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    Here's the /entire/ NDA:
    http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...a=1&tag=tester

    I especially like this part

    You're welcome <3
    Whoa, looks like I may stand party corrected on this. I was referring to the official XI forums btw, and of course our LS website. I am at work and can't pull that link up, but if you could copy/paste the first part of that (not a-c, but the blurb that is referencing you down to part d. in the first place).

    Again tho, you can still say whether or not you recieved an email for invitation (my original point). Though, that line you quoted states you can not mention if you accepted the invitation, if you've already accepted it.
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