Tanaka or Yoshi?

[Zenaku]

Most of that five years was finishing up the engine. Nobody can say for certain how much time they truly had at their disposal.

But anyway, I just wanted to say that I agree FFXIV did meet total failure upon release. But the release was of course rushed, even Yoshi said so. The FFXIV at release had massive potential. Now, under Yoshi, that potential seems to shrink. Don't you agree?

-Focus on instances instead of open-world where all players play together.
-Auto attack instead of combat where position and actions are supposed to matter.
-NPC quests with no sense of adventure.

I don't know, it just seems like the goal of FFXIV originally seemed a lot more inspirational than the one they have now.

I can lol 2years at best FFXIV was only 50% by E3 of 2009 and then 60+% ish in gamescom everything else took 5years to make the crystal tool just to even make the game lol.Tanaka had no dam at all to make this game i blame the dam CEO thank you -.-

[Zenaku]

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You know that not even funny, The matter of fact this is getting old really quick there players hating eachother for there own views the matter is we meed a middle ground and make the game like that.

Sorry yoshio but listening to 20sh players on here who don't even play the game is not going to cut it. Make a poll each month and then you can get the overall player view for NA and other part of the world. the forums not really going to cut it if it the same ppl talking over and over again

at the end you going to make a game for the player base that on here not the ones who really playing your game or the onces waiting for it to get better.

[Nuru]

I'm playing the game and am going to wait for it to get better. In fact, I think it just got better earlier today! :O Oh noes! more crap to whine about! I better hop on the forums and make a new thread to add onto the other 50+ crying about the same damn thing!

And now its getting personal, disrespecting Yoshi_P when he is doing what he thinks is right, and listening to the playerbase.

You know, I'm 100% serious when I say that I would be fine with half of the active posters being banned by now.

[Cichy]

Let see... Yoshida doesn't fix the game in 3 months and he is a failure. Tanaka takes 5 years to create the worst rated FF ever released and it's alright cuase he "had vision".
Give Yoshi-P some time before you start asking for his head.

Just think about it for a moment, all these things you are asking Yoshida to implement are things that Tanaka didnt not create or completely screwed up.

This sums it up. Tanaka passed on a glorified running simulator to Yoshida to work on.

[LilBaller]

Great thread!

[Ava]

I got the impression by the letter of apology way back that Tanaka is still going to be on the team, but wont be director/producer anymore. I am sure there was some sort of turnover where Tanaka handed over his gameplan to Yoshi-P to study, consider, and decide on a best course of action. I highly doubt they just straight up kicked Tanaka out and put Yoshi-P behind his desk with a pile of stuff on it. There had to have been a turnover, and if Yoshi-P decided that perhaps changing the course of the game slightly or deviating from Tanaka's original vision, then I would rather put my trust there.

Tanaka was responsible for the launch of FFXIV, and he failed. Sure it probably wasn't entirely his fault, but he was responsible for it. I trust Yoshi-P to decide whether that original vision is something that can be delivered in a timely and productive manner or if they need to deviate from the original vision. The one thing Tanaka did well pre launch was hype the game up to be super amazing. Nobody ever saw even half of his ideas even slightly emerge in alpha, beta, or even release. So who's to say he ever would? It was all talk, and he couldn't back it up.

I like Yoshi-P, but I do hope that Tanaka is still there somewhere, because he obviously had a plan and I think it's important not to deviate too far from it, but Yoshi-P is doing a great job.

[Nuru]

To sum it all up, people don't know what the hell they even want anymore. Instead, they'd just rather whine and complain about what has already been implemented, no more than 24 hours ago.

Its one thing to whine and complain, but I've seen some major disrespect around here. Even wanting to bring Tanaka back? Wasn't he the cause of the new dev team in the first place? Let alone he is still working on the game anyways, so wtf people.

Anyways, this is like slapping Yoshi_P in the face after he just tried to give you a better game. Quit the hating and provide some actual feedback! Stop whining, and instead, throw in what you'd like to see changed. Is it that hard?

I should make a thread about closing the forums down, but that would just be one huge oxymoron.

[Seif]

So far Tanaka has given us XIV and great things in IX and XI. Naoki Yoshida however has yet to prove himself with anything else than a quick tongue and fondness to write long posts with no concrete info.

[Nuru]

So far Tanaka has given us XIV and great things in IX and XI. Naoki Yoshida however has yet to prove himself with anything else than a quick tongue and fondness to write long posts with no concrete info.

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Tanaka also gave us Yoshi_P if ya wanna put it that way.

[Seif]

And let's remember that Naoki still isn't a game designer on XIV Tanaka however is. So basically all the new systems are still designed mostly by him and not N.Yoshida. I can tell that none of the videogame projects I've been involved with has had a producer that had any say in the gameplay mechanics. Yet people seem to assume that he's almost single handedly designing all the new stuff being added to XIV (maybe someday just wait a little longer etc.)