Tanaka or Yoshi?

[gifthorse]

I think Tanaka was inbetween a rock and a hard place when he took on FFXIV, he is a good producer but maybe SE pushed him too hard and he had to cut corners here and there. Don't forget they had to develop this game with PS3 in mind and the limit on the memory was a huge stumbling block. The fact that a lot of the staples of FF titles were not available from launch further justify's that Tanaka simply did not have enough time to implement everything he wanted too. SE pushed for the release and then got a huge pile of fail for there efforts, It would be a good guess that Tanaka knew his job was under threat before launch. Tanka's vision in my opinion leans more towards a mix mash of old MMO techniques and new ideas which didnt really seem to work at launch, we dont know that full vision and we never will so who's to say that with another year or so Tanka might have been able to make a master piece. Yoshi-P however now has a sinking ship and a bucket to keep it afloat, it would be resonable to suggest that he might consult Tanka on his vision and ideas and encorporate them with his own. Yes, Yoshi has a more modern mmo experience but who is to say he cannot use that experience to make something new and exciting while keeping the FF feel, he himself has already stated the game doesnt have a FF feel and he wants to put that back into the game. He has also stated he doesnt like revealing things until there 100% confirmed and ready which is why his recent producer letters havent revealed much. In regards to companies, he said the NPC companies will be released first with the player companies released shortly afterwards (stated in producer V or VI letters cant remember which), I am really excited about this and I am pinning a lot of hope that this is going to be something huge.

This game needs something to drag it back from the brink, I have faith in Yoshi he seems connected to the players along with having a strong feeling of what FF titles should be. He hasnt made or been involved with many FF titles before but that doesnt mean he can't get advice from others within SE. Tanaka started from nothing too and look what he created with FFXI, I say give Yoshi-P his chance he may suprise us and hopefully he will.

The mild-mannered person in me would have to agree with this. But as much as I would like to give Yoshi the benefit of the doubt, the stuff he has done so far forces me to do otherwise. Only time will tell, I guess, as to whether he will take the game somewhere as new and exciting as was promised. I will always be checking back, I'm sure. So we will have to see.

But don't say we didn't warn you.

[Zenaku]

If he make this into a wow mmo i'm going to give up on MMO FFXI was a awesome game played it for 6years but could not stand the cap 85-99 idea. When i found about FFXIV it give me hope for a new game and hoping this would be something like ffxi but something new all together. The idea of adding raids and dungeons got me really thinking this may be come WoW game. I know that FFXI had dungeons and some type of raids but it was not named that and that what made it fun for me. As long as the raids and Dungeons are not like WoW because sadly i played wow for 2month and am not even playing it any more -.- am sick of the same thing over and over each time. the PVP really lack and it's lame if you don't have BoA giving a person a item that you can only get when you 85 really make me sick because it does not help new players at all. Top of that can't stand wow players everytime there a fight they pull out who doing best dps -.-

Anyways back on topic as long as FFXIV does not become WoW i'm fine with it. At the release wow players would flooding in FFXIV and calling there char toon lol i remind them it's "Char not toon"

Anyways i'm still hopeful for this game but so far it not looking so good for ffxiv.

[ManekiKanji]

I think at this point i prefure Yoshi altho i cant say i ever had any personal perference and Favorites for many or any producers or directors, yoshi does seem to be trying to base the future desicions on players inputs on all the polls hes been throwing out with enough of a choice for clear direction ,i can say its kept me checking back all the time for new posts wanting to discussing the future growth hoping for a kickass feature to get stuck in the game via what we as a whole decided towards.

If they delayed this mabey by a year or close i think tanaka would be there still without the slight stigma some people may have towards him now tho, being in pressure from higher ups to push it out fast was ultimatly why he got pushed out overwise im sure he'd be on the projext for a longtime to come with a great game on his roster.

[Kirith]

For now Yoshida's biggest achievement has been due to his PR abilities. The increased communication is something everyone of us can appreciate. However i can't help feeling it's mostly a way to keep us busy and interested by discussing on these forums and doesn't serve the purpose of asking our opinion about how to improve the game.
No one asked for aggro icons, after all, yet they were implemented over and before many things that were being asked and are still being asked on these forums.

We also have to admit that on paper FFXIV was quite the innovative mmorpg, and the graphics are excellent. It all comes down to the lack of content, bugs, and badly implemented features (due to lack of testing). These are huge mistakes, but anyone can see how they are all due to an early release and not a misguided direction. The true causes of this are only known to SE and it seems that they judged Tanaka responsible.

At the same time, no one seems to realize Yoshida isn't some directing genius called to the rescue, but as he said himself, a fairly unknown PR stuntman who has always worked behind the scenes. His job is to keep us happy. The fundamental changes in the dev team lie in the battle system developer, concept artist and lead programmer, plus other related figures as stated here (http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...d5253e4362e17f).

In conclusion, what SE did was simply to change development direction, adding some of their most experienced figures to the team. To discuss which director is better by associating the whole state of the game to one of them or the other is pointless, in my opinion. There are multiple factors that contribute to making this game what it is.

On my side, having to chose a director i prefer, i will always chose the one who actually directed and produced more games that i love. In this case, it is Tanaka.

[Galamantyl]

For all you guys know, this could still be Tanaka's roadmap. Yoshida might just be tweaking it here and there, and changing the priorities around.

Or better yet, perhaps Tanaka is working "behind the scenes" and Yoshida is here just to make people smile. ;D

OR... OOOOOR.... Perhaps Yoshida and Tanaka are girlfriend and boyfriend. ;D (okay, that might be going too far in the conspiracy)

[Peregrine]

For all you guys know, this could still be Tanaka's roadmap. Yoshida might just be tweaking it here and there, and changing the priorities around.

Or better yet, perhaps Tanaka is working "behind the scenes" and Yoshida is here just to make people smile. ;D

OR... OOOOOR.... Perhaps Yoshida and Tanaka are girlfriend and boyfriend. ;D (okay, that might be going too far in the conspiracy)

If you were Tanaka, what are the odds that you want anything more to do with this? Thrown under the bus by your bosses. Pitchforked by the player base who doesn't understand the project's goals and doesn't really care to. I'd wash my hands and walk away with a few choice curse words then either go to Mistwalker or retire.

To me, you don't get Tanaka if you can't sit your ass down and shut up for a minute. And we clearly can't do that as "empowered gamers."

Tanaka doesn't make your game. He makes his game. He's done with this, man. Empowering gamers to call the shots as a generic collective is incompatible with Tanaka's style.

Tanaka would not have stood for a single update since he stepped down. Agro icons? MP regen? He would backhand whoever pitched those in front of everyone and make them sit on the floor in the development meetings.

Tanaka's the guy who added fatigue to everything to give most players a shot at keeping up with the teens and addicts, knew there would be utter riotting, and didn't care. He's not calling the shots any more. You can already tell he's gone.

[Kirith]

If you were Tanaka, what are the odds that you want anything more to do with this? Thrown under the bus by your bosses. Pitchforked by the player base who doesn't understand the project's goals and doesn't really care to. I'd wash my hands and walk away with a few choice curse words then either go to Mistwalker or retire.

To me, you don't get Tanaka if you can't sit your ass down and shut up for a minute. And we clearly can't do that as "empowered gamers."

Tanaka doesn't make your game. He makes his game. He's done with this, man. Empowering gamers to call the shots as a generic collective is incompatible with Tanaka's style.

Tanaka would not have stood for a single update since he stepped down. Agro icons? MP regen? He would backhand whoever pitched those in front of everyone and make them sit on the floor in the development meetings.

Tanaka's the guy who added fatigue to everything to give most players a shot at keeping up with the teens and addicts, knew there would be utter riotting, and didn't care. He's not calling the shots any more. You can already tell he's gone.

Damn. There is more truth in this than what i can possibly accept. Then again, releasing the game in that condition that soon was a lapse in judgement and could only have this consequence. His doing as he pleased either went too far, or was met with the incompetence of his colleagues.

You can't blame us, the mass of ignorant players, for their failures. If they said "we release in three years" instead of two we would have waited. If they said "we release in two years but will do six months of beta test", we would have probably been overjoyed. This is someone's failure and it surely isn't ours.

[SirEdeonX]

This one:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cNbny7o5ph...nce-yoshi2.jpg

[ApplePie]

I'm in love with Yoshi-P. I pick Yoshi! Luck!

[zaviermhigo]

Yoshi. Tanaka tried to hard to make it completely different from xi, when a lot of people wanted common elements from xi upgraded in a new setting, like most mmos that make sequential titles. Yoshi knows what those of us from XI want, we don't want XI recreated, but we would like some of XI's features we felt were crucial to our mmo experience, and he's giving us that. Plus I like that post about auto-attack, its not Yoshi, but it is the new devs he was like "deal with it, we're adding it, you complained about the other stuff so deal with this", i like that, don't listen to EVERYTHING we say lol.