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  1. #111
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    NadienKirisame's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    $75 to buy the game + sub fee for every month is was pay to play. Same amount as you probably spent if you played every month they charged.
    Oh but I bought a CE and and SE so I can get all the items :P I also bought FFXIII for the item that came with it... well and I wanted to play that at the time as well... and yes I paid when they started that up because it was worth it. So I think I beat you in money spent not that it matters at all... really it doesn't matter at all... I will be damned though if I'm going to pay so that you can play this game though... I'm paying for myself you pay for yourself or go away!

    Are you truly not disgusted with the way you look at this for yourself? To get a free ride while others pay to keep the game going? you can not see fault in your words at all? You are truly sad... you know that... but don't worry... I have no pity for trash like you...

    The cat is bemused =-.-=
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Currently I am playing FFXI, WoW, CoD, Halo, Diablo 3, SWTOR (occasionally).
    Wait wait wait

    You are paying monthly for Diablo 3, SWTOR and (sorry SE) post-aby FFXI and you are complaining about having to pay for a game you think might be boring and have nothing to do?

    I think you are already paying for 3
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by NadienKirisame View Post
    Oh but I bought a CE and and SE so I can get all the items :P I also bought FFXIII for the item that came with it... well and I wanted to play that at the time as well... and yes I paid when they started that up because it was worth it. So I think I beat you in money spent not that it matters at all... really it doesn't matter at all... I will be damned though if I'm going to pay so that you can play this game though... I'm paying for myself you pay for yourself or go away!

    Are you truly not disgusted with the way you look at this for yourself? To get a free ride while others pay to keep the game going? you can not see fault in your words at all? You are truly sad... you know that... but don't worry... I have no pity for trash like you...

    The cat is bemused =-.-=
    I don't feel bad for the way I think because I know how the free to play model works. The company hopes people will try their game since it is free then either get a sub, or buy stuff from their game's shop. The revenue on the game is made by those willing to pay a sub fee, or those willing to buy stuff on the shop. Are they going to get everyone to pay something? No they aren't that's just the nature of the model.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    Wait wait wait

    You are paying monthly for Diablo 3, SWTOR and (sorry SE) post-aby FFXI and you are complaining about having to pay for a game you think might be boring and have nothing to do?

    I think you are already paying for 3
    Diablo 3 is not a mmo its a 4 player multiplayer action rpg dungeon crawler type you buy the game and get unlimited online access to their servers. SWTOR is F2P I keep it installed when I get really bored have something to do. FFXI I do pay for cause I still have friends that like playing it. WoW I do pay for because I have some friends that want to play it. Only 2 games I really pay for currently FFXI and WoW.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Diablo 3 is not a mmo its a 4 player multiplayer action rpg dungeon crawler type you buy the game and get unlimited online access to their servers. SWTOR is F2P I keep it installed when I get really bored have something to do. FFXI I do pay for cause I still have friends that like playing it. WoW I do pay for because I have some friends that want to play it. Only 2 games I really pay for currently FFXI and WoW.
    Somehow that does not surprise me. You seem like youd fit right in the WoW and FFXI community
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  6. #116
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    I'm getting a serious case of deja mustard.

    Have we been here before?
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I don't feel bad for the way I think because I know how the free to play model works. The company hopes people will try their game since it is free then either get a sub, or buy stuff from their game's shop. The revenue on the game is made by those willing to pay a sub fee, or those willing to buy stuff on the shop. Are they going to get everyone to pay something? No they aren't that's just the nature of the model.
    This free to play model may work on games with a flexible storytelling, but a game like FFXIV needs a stable income to add intended content. Having microtransactions may seem like a good idea for a newborn game, but this isn't a newborn game, the players who stick around know what they will get (Somewhat) While players who quit a long time ago or people who only heard about this game have the rumors to follow. If you want a free to play game, go play it then. Theres alot of them out there, none with the deep storytelling like FF. I played WOW, GW2 like i mentioned, AOC, TERA, Warhammer online, LOTRO which has a great story, but you kinda know it already. And alot of others MMO's.
    Nothing beats the way you are sucked into the story like SE do it.
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  8. #118
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    I'm yet to see any good legitimate reason for those against it, and those who support it. Then again its far to soon to speculate and bash the OP about the future of FFXIV ARR. The fact of the matter is, if FFXIV cannot attract subscribers to pay monthly then the devs may have to consider plan B. Just like it did at its original release, everyone played for free for one whole year.

    It is far to early to speculate, but it is a good idea to brainstorm and share constructive ideas than just being bluntly rude.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I too have paid for WoW my subscription is still current in that game, but they actually have a lot of content to do so its worth it.
    You have to understand and remember, FFXIV1.0 failed and so yes it isn't same level as wow or FFXI in terms of content. However, if FFXIV 2.0 ARR does well then it should stay p2p. If It failed then Yoshi-P will decide it's time for f2p or so.
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joji View Post
    Nothing beats the way you are sucked into the story like SE do it.
    Opinion. Also, not a valid argument against a f2p model.

    Personally, the f2p model only lends itself to games that have so little content that they need to suck players in somehow. In many ways XI would have lent itself to the f2p model more than ARR seems to, especially during formative levels. Games that have transitioned to f2p (Mainly DCUO and SWTOR...) couldn't justify a subscription only because of the awful time they gave players while leveling up, and the horrendous endgame they tried to shove down players throats. There's no guarantee that SE will be successful with 2.0, but starting a game with a f2p option is essentially telling people that the game isn't worth paying for; financial suicide.
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