Alpha First Look: Video 3 - The Black Shroud

[Andrien]

I did not ask for your sympathy. I answered your question. My comments are directed at the developers not you.

I've answered your question with sympathy because of the reply you gave back. Besides, you quote my comment as if you're directly addressing me. Anyways, someone has already explained the situation.

[Tupster]

I've answered your question with sympathy because of the reply you gave back. Besides, you quote my comment as if you're directly addressing me. Anyways, someone has already explained the situation.

I think you didn't quite understand what I meant. You said "This is your problem not mine" as if I wanted you to feel the same way I do. I'm not trying to convince players that do not see a problem. If it doesn't bother you I cannot make it bother you and I wouldn't. However, if I can suggest things to make it better you might notice that it is better, even if you didn't think anything was wrong before.

Mainly, I'd like to see the animation improved and possibly I'd like it to not be possible to jump again right away. I'd also like to see an option to turn off the ability to see other players jump.

I'd appreciate it if we could talk about the merits of these kinds of ideas (which I'm not absolutely fixated on) instead of trying to imagine some mental defect I must have because this bothers me enough to ask about it.

[Andrien]

I think you didn't quite understand what I meant. You said "This is your problem not mine" as if I wanted you to feel the same way I do. I'm not trying to convince players that do not see a problem. If it doesn't bother you I cannot make it bother you and I wouldn't. However, if I can suggest things to make it better you might notice that it is better, even if you didn't think anything was wrong before.

Mainly, I'd like to see the animation improved and possibly I'd like it to not be possible to jump again right away. I'd also like to see an option to turn off the ability to see other players jump.

I'd appreciate it if we could talk about the merits of these kinds of ideas (which I'm not absolutely fixated on) instead of trying to imagine some mental defect I must have because this bothers me enough to ask about it.

Okay full stop right there. Time out.. Hold the horses.

Now you're suggesting in the bold and underline part a feature to block seeing people jump. What you're actually suggesting is a feature to see people go through or phase through fences and obstacles like if it wasn't there. I have to disagree with you on this one. I thought you wanted to make jump look better.

[Tupster]

Okay full stop right there. Time out.. Hold the horses.

Now you're suggesting in the bold and underline part a feature to block seeing people jump. What you're actually suggesting is a feature to see people go through or phase through fences and obstacles like if it wasn't there. I have to disagree with you on this one. I thought you wanted to make jump look better?

In FFXIV 1.0 you can walk though fences already... But I totally agree with you on that. I'm going to end up just praying that either people don't jump around like they used all the meth or that I get used to it

If I had to choose I'd rather people phase through things. All I see in these videos is people jumping. I do not choose to be bothered by it! It is honestly distracting to me.

[Xmbei]

I think you didn't quite understand what I meant. You said "This is your problem not mine" as if I wanted you to feel the same way I do. I'm not trying to convince players that do not see a problem. If it doesn't bother you I cannot make it bother you and I wouldn't. However, if I can suggest things to make it better you might notice that it is better, even if you didn't think anything was wrong before.

Mainly, I'd like to see the animation improved and possibly I'd like it to not be possible to jump again right away. I'd also like to see an option to turn off the ability to see other players jump.

I'd appreciate it if we could talk about the merits of these kinds of ideas (which I'm not absolutely fixated on) instead of trying to imagine some mental defect I must have because this bothers me enough to ask about it.

Ermm you realize it would make even more jarring for you then, it would have people either sliding places or up 90 degree angles or even just teleporting. Thats a stupid suggestion. Everything else isn't a bad suggestion. but if you complain about it jarring you, the effect of not seeing the jump will be at least 3x as jarring.

edit: lol still my opinion but realized funny enough someone already did this exact thing and has already been answered >.<!!!

[Coyohma]

Ermm you realize it would make even more jarring for you then, it would have people either sliding places or up 90 degree angles or even just teleporting. Thats a stupid suggestion. Everything else isn't a bad suggestion. but if you complain about it jarring you, the effect of not seeing the jump will be at least 3x as jarring.

The vast majority of the jumping you'll see will not be functional jumping. There are about 35 instances in this video where the character jumps, yet only one appears to have been needed (Miqo'te jumping the fence at 2:17). Also, you already had a lot of fences and solid objects that you could just walk through in 1.0. Given this, I fail to see how it's not an idea worth considering.

Personally, I would trade not seeing 9 out of 10 extraneous jumps for a person walking through a fence that has to be jumped. I imagine the former as easily more "jarring."

[Andrien]

The vast majority of the jumping you'll see will not be functional jumping. There are about 35 instances in this video where the character jumps, yet only one appears to have been needed (Miqo'te jumping the fence at 2:17). Also, you already had a lot of fences and solid objects that you could just walk through in 1.0. Given this, I fail to see how it's not an idea worth considering.

Personally, I would trade not seeing 9 out of 10 extraneous jumps for a person walking through a fence that has to be jumped. I imagine the former as easily more "jarring."

Can you see the future? I'm assuming you can from that first sentence, so I want to make sure.


The vast majority of complainers is basically bashing the poor guy that is providing us a demonstration of the alpha version. Of all things to complain about it is either the grass or jump.. c'mon...

[Coyohma]

Can you see the future? I'm assuming you can from that first sentence, so I want to make sure.

It's a reasonable assumption based on what we have seen and know. Remember that the developers have told us that there will be little to no function to jumping.

[Andrien]

It's a reasonable assumption based on what we have seen and know. Remember that the developers have told us that there will be little to no function to jumping.

They did let us know we can jump over fences, rocks, and obstacles.