Alpha First Look: Video 3 - The Black Shroud

[Tupster]

too bad jumping is here to stay. Has it occurred to you that this is what they want? the devs I mean, to show off that it's finally got a feature that is an MMO STANDARD. Seriously, get over it. Jumping is here to stay, and it makes the game much more appealing to me and to many other people. You wanna see real jumping? Go outside and look at your friends jump, or take a video of you jumping and loop it as you are in awe by how realistic the jump is. This is a game, We play it to have fun, it doesn't have to be realistic to the point its boring as hell (hello 1.0).

I didn't say remove jumping.
"Everybody is doing it" is not a reason to do something.
I'm saying that if you jump forward then it should actually look like a forward jump. It doesn't have to be realistic, but it should be plausible. It just looks weird as it is now. It is bad art and I'm sure you'd appreciate a better jump animation too.
I'm not sure at all what you mean about making a video of jumping. What does that mean?
"We play it to have fun" does not mean anything. Water is wet. So?

I do not mean to be hostile to other players, but I am still going to make my case to developers were I might be heard.

If you want to counter what I'm saying address the issue of jumping, not me.

[Nox]

I didn't say remove jumping.
"Everybody is doing it" is not a reason to do something.
I'm saying that if you jump forward then it should actually look like a forward jump. It doesn't have to be realistic, but it should be plausible. It just looks weird as it is now. It is bad art and I'm sure you'd appreciate a better jump animation too.
I'm not sure at all what you mean about making a video of jumping. What does that mean?
"We play it to have fun" does not mean anything. Water is wet. So?

I do not mean to be hostile to other players, but I am still going to make my case to developers were I might be heard.

If you want to counter what I'm saying address the issue of jumping, not me.

You would be surprised how many people (outside of the FF fanbase) were turned off by the lack of a standard jump feature on XIV. Leaving something that standard out of a new MMO just gets people wondering why it's left out. Having to walk around a little tiny fence is redundant. Having said that, While the animation isn't perfect, I would only accept an improvement (visually) if it didn't delay the jump at all. I don't want my character to squat completely, then jump, then land and have to balance himself, just so that the animation looks realistic. I'm all for making the game look better, but not at the expense of game-play mechanics.

[Tupster]

You would be surprised how many people (outside of the FF fanbase) were turned off by the lack of a standard jump feature on XIV. Leaving something that standard out of a new MMO just gets people wondering why it's left out. Having to walk around a little tiny fence is redundant. Having said that, While the animation isn't perfect, I would only accept an improvement (visually) if it didn't delay the jump at all. I don't want my character to squat completely, then jump, then land and have to balance himself, just so that the animation looks realistic. I'm all for making the game look better, but not at the expense of game-play mechanics.

Yeah, I do not like how FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 have invisible walls. Having a jump forces you do not have these invisible walls which is a great improvement. What I'd really like is something like Zelda 64 where you automatically jump when you push against something you can jump over, but it is too late for that I think.

I wouldn't be for a delay in the beginning and end of the jump. This isn't the original Prince of Persia. Just a "one leg in front of the other" jump you do when you are running.

[Duelle]

Jumping seems to serve almost no purpose except to make me wonder why somebody is jumping. I was going to wait to complain until I saw how nervous players would be, but after seeing the Live Letter and now even this video where the PR rep can't keep from jumping, I must say that I really hate the jumping. It is really distracting. It looks bad (one should jump differently if one is running vs. standing still). It also seems like it will actually be unneeded to actually get anywhere.

The jumping needs to be fixed.

In light of this, next time SE releases a gameplay video they need to add captions every time the character jumps like "Take this, jump haters!", "Gettin' me some AIR!", "Wheee! I'm jumping!" and "Hope someone doesn't get mad at me! ^_~".

Nice tour of the Shroud and Bentbranch.

[Tupster]

In light of this, next time SE releases a gameplay video they need to add captions every time the character jumps like "Take this, jump haters!", "Gettin' me some AIR!", "Wheee! I'm jumping!" and "Hope someone doesn't get mad at me! ^_~".

Nice tour of the Shroud and Bentbranch.

LOL, *you* could make that video and I would probably laugh quite a bit. I'm still going to try and see if I can't convince them to make it less silly.

[Bittereye]

Jump jump jump jump jump jump.

Jumping seems to serve almost no purpose except to make me wonder why somebody is jumping. I was going to wait to complain until I saw how nervous players would be, but after seeing the Live Letter and now even this video where the PR rep can't keep from jumping, I must say that I really hate the jumping. It is really distracting. It looks bad (one should jump differently if one is running vs. standing still). It also seems like it will actually be unneeded to actually get anywhere.

The jumping needs to be fixed.

Those that didnt want jump at all are all saying "I told you so" with all the random bunny hopping; me included. Seeing that Live Letter where everyone was jumping just because was so annoying and this video where the Mithra, I mean Mi'Qote, jumped 5 times just before that bridge had me wondering what all the jumping was for.

I now laugh to myself thinking they all have a serious case of ants in their pants

[Andrien]

Those that didnt want jump at all are all saying "I told you so" with all the random bunny hopping; me included. Seeing that Live Letter where everyone was jumping just because was so annoying and this video where the Mithra, I mean Mi'Qote, jumped 5 times just before that bridge had me wondering what all the jumping was for.

I now laugh to myself thinking they all have a serious case of ants in their pants

I don't agree with your post, but its Miqo'te.

[ZakarnRosewood]

Those that didnt want jump at all are all saying "I told you so" with all the random bunny hopping; me included. Seeing that Live Letter where everyone was jumping just because was so annoying and this video where the Mithra, I mean Mi'Qote, jumped 5 times just before that bridge had me wondering what all the jumping was for.

I now laugh to myself thinking they all have a serious case of ants in their pants

It looked like Popcorn! I do like being able to jump for the fact i wont be getting stuck on a little rock or having to walk around a random chunk of fence in the middle of nowhere. the novelty will wear off after a while. its useful and there for those who want it.

[Aerenvel]

Jump jump jump jump jump jump.

Jumping seems to serve almost no purpose except to make me wonder why somebody is jumping. I was going to wait to complain until I saw how nervous players would be, but after seeing the Live Letter and now even this video where the PR rep can't keep from jumping, I must say that I really hate the jumping. It is really distracting. It looks bad (one should jump differently if one is running vs. standing still). It also seems like it will actually be unneeded to actually get anywhere.

The jumping needs to be fixed.

Jumping can serve a few purposes one instead of walking 10min around a corner you can jump over certain choke points.
Also not saying they will do this but, in Rift there is a raid battle where it is kinda like simon says.
Jumping can bring a whole other mechanic dodging shockwaves going over obstacles plus i like it gives me something to do while running and i like seeing the chocobo attempt to fly.

[PotatoSalad]

Jump jump jump jump jump jump.

Jumping seems to serve almost no purpose except to make me wonder why somebody is jumping. I was going to wait to complain until I saw how nervous players would be, but after seeing the Live Letter and now even this video where the PR rep can't keep from jumping, I must say that I really hate the jumping. It is really distracting. It looks bad (one should jump differently if one is running vs. standing still). It also seems like it will actually be unneeded to actually get anywhere.

The jumping needs to be fixed.

[Edit: I address a lot of criticism later in this thread and a lot of good points were made. I encourage anybody interested in this to read the thread.]

Not this shit again... if you want to be in an mmo without jumping, go to FFXI.

EDIT: You know what? After reading how full of yourself in other posts and how much you act like you own the FFXIV IP I'm going to create a dummy character, find you, and *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* *Jump* until you ragequit in absolute terror- LALAFELL STYLE!