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  1. #41
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    Fated Erskine
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    This was a great preview. Way better than the last one.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nox View Post
    too bad jumping is here to stay. Has it occurred to you that this is what they want? the devs I mean, to show off that it's finally got a feature that is an MMO STANDARD. Seriously, get over it. Jumping is here to stay, and it makes the game much more appealing to me and to many other people. You wanna see real jumping? Go outside and look at your friends jump, or take a video of you jumping and loop it as you are in awe by how realistic the jump is. This is a game, We play it to have fun, it doesn't have to be realistic to the point its boring as hell (hello 1.0).
    I didn't say remove jumping.
    "Everybody is doing it" is not a reason to do something.
    I'm saying that if you jump forward then it should actually look like a forward jump. It doesn't have to be realistic, but it should be plausible. It just looks weird as it is now. It is bad art and I'm sure you'd appreciate a better jump animation too.
    I'm not sure at all what you mean about making a video of jumping. What does that mean?
    "We play it to have fun" does not mean anything. Water is wet. So?

    I do not mean to be hostile to other players, but I am still going to make my case to developers were I might be heard.

    If you want to counter what I'm saying address the issue of jumping, not me.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    I've answered your question with sympathy because of the reply you gave back. Besides, you quote my comment as if you're directly addressing me. Anyways, someone has already explained the situation.
    I think you didn't quite understand what I meant. You said "This is your problem not mine" as if I wanted you to feel the same way I do. I'm not trying to convince players that do not see a problem. If it doesn't bother you I cannot make it bother you and I wouldn't. However, if I can suggest things to make it better you might notice that it is better, even if you didn't think anything was wrong before.

    Mainly, I'd like to see the animation improved and possibly I'd like it to not be possible to jump again right away. I'd also like to see an option to turn off the ability to see other players jump.

    I'd appreciate it if we could talk about the merits of these kinds of ideas (which I'm not absolutely fixated on) instead of trying to imagine some mental defect I must have because this bothers me enough to ask about it.
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    100% AWESOME!
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  5. #45
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    I am very impressed with the music.
    It is a shame to me that Gridania is now Shrubbery like instead of Forest like... but oh well. It does make me wonder if what we are seeing now is 'Autumn', what with all the Red leaves.

    I am very happy that we have to explore for map completion now. It'll be a fun LS event.

    Sakura - I would have to agree, I think the animation for standing and running jump should show a difference, even if it is just an extra step to the animation

    I have a suspicion that not all elements are put into place yet (inertia etc), but if they are then it is good that the developers hear the concerns ... as a whole it does not yet look finished...and it is important they know that we noticed.

    first song reminded me of Spirited away immediately http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCpFe...eature=related
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    Last edited by Niqote; 11-22-2012 at 02:52 PM.

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupster View Post
    I think you didn't quite understand what I meant. You said "This is your problem not mine" as if I wanted you to feel the same way I do. I'm not trying to convince players that do not see a problem. If it doesn't bother you I cannot make it bother you and I wouldn't. However, if I can suggest things to make it better you might notice that it is better, even if you didn't think anything was wrong before.

    Mainly, I'd like to see the animation improved and possibly I'd like it to not be possible to jump again right away. I'd also like to see an option to turn off the ability to see other players jump.

    I'd appreciate it if we could talk about the merits of these kinds of ideas (which I'm not absolutely fixated on) instead of trying to imagine some mental defect I must have because this bothers me enough to ask about it.

    Okay full stop right there. Time out.. Hold the horses.

    Now you're suggesting in the bold and underline part a feature to block seeing people jump. What you're actually suggesting is a feature to see people go through or phase through fences and obstacles like if it wasn't there. I have to disagree with you on this one. I thought you wanted to make jump look better.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    Okay full stop right there. Time out.. Hold the horses.

    Now you're suggesting in the bold and underline part a feature to block seeing people jump. What you're actually suggesting is a feature to see people go through or phase through fences and obstacles like if it wasn't there. I have to disagree with you on this one. I thought you wanted to make jump look better?
    In FFXIV 1.0 you can walk though fences already... But I totally agree with you on that. I'm going to end up just praying that either people don't jump around like they used all the meth or that I get used to it

    If I had to choose I'd rather people phase through things. All I see in these videos is people jumping. I do not choose to be bothered by it! It is honestly distracting to me.
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  8. #48
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    Velhart Aurion
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    It is simply astonishing how well the BGM works in this game. The dungeon theme, while still calm and soothing, gives you that sense that you have entered a dangerous area. A definite thumbs up to SOKEN and his team in making great music. Same thumbs up for the map designers. Everything gives me that Final Fantasy feeling so far, good work team.
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  9. #49
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    Nox Ruo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupster View Post
    I didn't say remove jumping.
    "Everybody is doing it" is not a reason to do something.
    I'm saying that if you jump forward then it should actually look like a forward jump. It doesn't have to be realistic, but it should be plausible. It just looks weird as it is now. It is bad art and I'm sure you'd appreciate a better jump animation too.
    I'm not sure at all what you mean about making a video of jumping. What does that mean?
    "We play it to have fun" does not mean anything. Water is wet. So?

    I do not mean to be hostile to other players, but I am still going to make my case to developers were I might be heard.

    If you want to counter what I'm saying address the issue of jumping, not me.
    You would be surprised how many people (outside of the FF fanbase) were turned off by the lack of a standard jump feature on XIV. Leaving something that standard out of a new MMO just gets people wondering why it's left out. Having to walk around a little tiny fence is redundant. Having said that, While the animation isn't perfect, I would only accept an improvement (visually) if it didn't delay the jump at all. I don't want my character to squat completely, then jump, then land and have to balance himself, just so that the animation looks realistic. I'm all for making the game look better, but not at the expense of game-play mechanics.
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    There seems to be a lot of buildings. I really hope we can enter them and interact with the inhabitants.
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