RED MAGE VS TIME MAGE

[Kiote]

I think people should stop asking for Weird Random Classes until we actually have the last two Original Final Fantasy Classes.

Thief and Red Mage deserve to be the next two classes if for no other reason than because they are the only two missing from Final Fantasy.

Time Mage only existed in Final Fantasy V and that bastardized chess game.

[Yellow]

Time Mage FTW~

It's funny how people claim that the majority of players want Red Mage.. yet there isn't any proof.. and when there's proof that it would seem that more people would like Time Mage instead, it's because "I didn't vote" (because that's going to help get a general consensus on what the player base prefers..)

I think people should stop asking for Weird Random Classes until we actually have the last two Original Final Fantasy Classes.

Thief and Red Mage deserve to be the next two classes if for no other reason than because they are the only two missing from Final Fantasy.

Time Mage only existed in Final Fantasy V and that bastardized chess game.

Well they should release the class as its original form then? Not as it was in FFXI Which would leave room for the release of Time Mage.

Don't bother using the 'original classes' excuse if you don't want it similar to its original state.. and Lancer wasn't an 'original class'.. that's still in the game

[Godking]

Blue Mage.

[Alaltus]

Oh uh huh, someone have soggy cereal this morning? My point was that RDM in XI was a conglomerate of spells taken from other possible jobs, Time Mage and Mystic Knight being the main two, and Red mage was pretty OP in XI. These were all added after it's launch (Refresh wasn't a spell RDM had at launch) to make RDM more unique and desirable in a party (Though they never nailed down the mechanics to have it melee in a party properly). Now what I'm getting at is that we should ask random gamers who haven't play XI and ask them which job is more iconic.

But no that's probably not good enough to enlighten you, because after all any answer I give is going to make me look like a fool (Dramatic much son? Also hi I'm from Asura, I know we're drama queens long live Asura)

Thing is, if you ask which is more iconic because of the nature of the question Red Mage would likely have a broader base of players, Red Mage was around since FF1 and useable from the beginning. Any FF player of any age will be able to tell you what a Red Mage is. The only FF game with a job system that didnt have Red Mage that i know of was FF tactics and FFXII Revenant Wings. FFIX too though there were Red Mage NPCs at a bunch of towns. Time Mage has 7 appearances within a Job System FFV, the 3 FF tactics games, FFXII international, FFXII Revenant Wings and Bravely default. Compared to Red Mages 10 appearances within a Job System starting with Final Fantasy, FFIII, FFV, Final Fantasy XI, FF Tactics Advance, FF Tactics A2, Bravely Default, FF Dimensions and FF Brigade. When it comes down to it Red Mage is a older more constant Job choice.

As i've said i dont think they are in competition if anything traditionally Time Mage has more competition in Black and White Mage than it does in Red Mage. As for Mystic Knight i'd like to see it more of a Elemental Weaponskill/Elemental stance user than a enspell user having to recast enspells is tidious and the original Sorcerer/Mystic Knight was really slow wasting turns to imbue your weapon for very little increase compared to other jobs in damage if any.

[Wilan]

Don't bother using the 'original classes' excuse if you don't want it similar to its original state.. and Lancer wasn't an 'original class'.. that's still in the game

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Kain_Highwind
They even have the very same armor lol

[Kirol]

Red mage? Feh, it's out of date. 25 years old now. I want to see something new to the series, and I felt the class system was a step in the right direction for that. Not just copy-pasta 25 year old Job frames and stick a new story onto it, and I definitely do not want to see a copy-pasta of XI.
As I always say, XI and XIV are two different games and should be treated as such.
Red mage in XI had as much charisma as using a rabid Badger for a pillow.
Melee mage class with support abilities turned into Haste spam.
Don't get me wrong, if it remains a Buff/DD class like BRD, then I'm for it. But, I get a feeling that won't end up being the case.
Hence, my vote goes for Time lord. I mean uh. Time mage.
Darleks.

[Andrien]

Time Mage has 6 appearances FFV, the 3 FF tactics games, FFXII international and Bravely default.

11 appearances:

FFV
FFVIII Ultimicia
FFX Tidus section of the Sphere Grid contains the Slow and Haste spells, as well as their upgrades Slowga and Hastega.
Final Fantasy XII International
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Dissidia Time Mage job card
Dissidia 012 Time Mage job card
Bravely default

[Hanemakikaze]

Do not want another boring ass red mage. Of all the jobs that could be added, red mage should be at the bottom of the list.

[Alaltus]

11 appearances:

FFV
FFVIII Ultimicia
FFX Tidus section of the Sphere Grid contains the Slow and Haste spells, as well as their upgrades Slowga and Hastega.
Final Fantasy XII International
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Dissidia Time Mage job card
Dissidia 012 Time Mage job card
Bravely default

You missed Ultimecia's appearance in Theatrhythm =P

[Warlock]

Red mage? Feh, it's out of date. 25 years old now. I want to see something new to the series, and I felt the class system was a step in the right direction for that. Not just copy-pasta 25 year old Job frames and stick a new story onto it, and I definitely do not want to see a copy-pasta of XI.
As I always say, XI and XIV are two different games and should be treated as such.
Red mage in XI had as much charisma as using a rabid Badger for a pillow.
Melee mage class with support abilities turned into Haste spam.
Don't get me wrong, if it remains a Buff/DD class like BRD, then I'm for it. But, I get a feeling that won't end up being the case.
Hence, my vote goes for Time lord. I mean uh. Time mage.
Darleks.

What's wrong with using them as pillows?
The problem with introducing RDM's melee aspect is there's already a sword user in FF14 and atleast i have the impression Yoshi-P doesn't want to add a job that can equip all weapons or a weapon that can be used by more than one job ...so what would you give RDM? Rapier is a skinny sword so yeah and before you say BLM/WHM use staff only BLM uses staff WHM's is called Cane >_>