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  1. #1291
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    The purpose of Free Companies is to group a large number of players together who then work toward expanding the company and earning those bonuses.

    Marriage is the joining of two people, bonuses have yet to be stated if there are any at all.
    For FC: I agree, large group with at least 4 people to work together and get bonuses and content cleared.

    For marriage: Joining of 2 people for the purpose of?? Clearing low man content?? And a possible bonus?? Maybe??
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  2. #1292
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    [puts on his Donald Trump voice]

    BUT IF WE ALLOW SAME SEX MARRIAGE, IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO OUR MIQO'TE MARRYING ... EWES... AND... AND... DODOS. Remember that time we gave women the right to vote? Did it not lead directly to exceptions made for common MOBS? This cannot happen again! I will not live in a world governed by THE MARMOT AGENDA and all of its loose morals!

    I kid, I kid.

    Yoshida-san is correct, however. To even approach this subject in a game aimed at no less than 5 different cultures is to walk not on eggshells but broken glass!

    The past ten years have seen a drastic change in same-sex marriage in some Western civilizations, but it's still very on-the-hush and under-the-rug in Japan if my understanding of CNN's doubtlessly spun stories on Takeshi Kitano's comments and the Disneyland ceremony incidents are of any merit.

    I'm a firm believer in social equality and respect to concepts like freedom and consent (the latter of which is a construct largely ignored by most debates in the same-sex marriage circles).

    Ironically, acceptance would probably come down to Eorzea's religions from a LORE standpoint as far as I'm concerned. Sure, in reality, marriage was a social construct that was co-opted into a religious covenant that has since seen a silent transition to a legal contract, but who says Eorzeans would do the same thing?

    After all, Eorzea is based on Greek city states, and we all know how different the views on subjects like these were between entities like Sparta and Athens. Perhaps we could end up in a world where if you want to have a same-sex marriage in-game, you'd have to move the hell out of Ishgard to start with!

    Whatever happens, it's not going to be taken lightly and it's going to either alienate some players or offend others.

    Just my two gil.

    EDIT: From now until the end of the game, anytime I RP "Anony Moose's" attitudes, he will assuredly rage at "the marmot agenda" every chance he gets.
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 11-21-2012 at 06:25 AM.
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  3. #1293
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    For FC: I agree, large group with at least 4 people to work together and get bonuses and content cleared.

    For marriage: Joining of 2 people for the purpose of?? Clearing low man content?? And a possible bonus?? Maybe??
    Where does clearing low-man content even come from? Marriage isn't about clearing content. They're two completely different systems, you'll have to elaborate much further if you intend to prove your point.
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  4. #1294
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    ShinigamiKayla's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    [puts on his Donald Trump voice]

    BUT IF WE ALLOW SAME SEX MARRIAGE, IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO OUR MIQO'TE MARRYING ... EWES... AND... AND... DODOS. Remember that time we gave women the right to vote? Did it not lead directly to exceptions made for common MOBS? This cannot happen again! I will not live in a world governed by THE MARMOT AGENDA and all of its loose morals!

    I kid, I kid.

    Yoshida-san is correct, however. The past ten years have seen a drastic change in same-sex marriage in some Western civilizations, but it's still very on-the-hush and under-the-rug in Japan if my understanding of CNN's doubtlessly spun stories on Takeshi Kitano's comments and the Disneyland ceremony incidents are of any merit.

    I'm a firm believer in social equality and respect to concepts like freedom and consent (the latter of which is a construct largely ignored by most debates in the same-sex marriage circles).

    Ironically, acceptance would probably come down to Eorzea's religions from a LORE standpoint as far as I'm concerned. Sure, in reality, marriage was a social construct that was co-opted into a religious covenant that has since seen a silent transition to a legal contract, but who says Eorzeans would do the same thing?

    After all, Eorzea is based on Greek city states, and we all know how different the views on subjects like these were between entities like Sparta and Athens. Perhaps we could end up in a world where if you want to have a same-sex marriage in-game, you'd have to move the hell out of Ishgard to start with!

    Just my two gil.
    Achilles slept with Patroclus during the Trojan War :< yayyy Greeks~ they could love a woman and a man at the same time and not be hated upon!~ oh such epicurean bliss~ Personally I hate the Greek philosopher Epicurus but that's just me o_o

    "In the Iliad, the relationship between Patroclus and Achilles is a vital part of the story. The relationship contributes to the overall theme of the humanization of Achilles. While the Iliad never explicitly stated as such, in later Greek writings, such as Plato's Symposium, the relationship between Patroclus and Achilles is held up as a model of romantic love. However, Xenophon in his Symposium, argued that it was inaccurate to label their relationship as romantic. Nevertheless, their relationship is said to have inspired Alexander the Great in his supposed romantic relationship with his close friend Hephaestion." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patroclus)
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  5. #1295
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Where does clearing low-man content even come from? Marriage isn't about clearing content. They're two completely different systems, you'll have to elaborate much further if you intend to prove your point.
    Believe his point is and im guessing here just that marriage doesn't really serve a actual function in a game compare to in real life.
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  6. #1296
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    Quote Originally Posted by odintius View Post
    Believe his point is and im guessing here just that marriage doesn't really serve a actual function in a game compare to in real life.
    Neither does killing dragons and making sole sushi. :/

    Everyone enjoys their content differently. RP elements within an RPG I dont get how it is nothing but logical.
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  7. #1297
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Neither does killing dragons and making sole sushi. :/

    Everyone enjoys their content differently. RP elements within an RPG I dont get how it is nothing but logical.
    You could do that in game without the marriage even added to the game if going to RP technically even with it there you could still RP also have your ls members help out and setup ceremony and do it yourself.
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  8. #1298
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    Quote Originally Posted by odintius View Post
    You could do that in game without the marriage even added to the game if going to RP technically even with it there you could still RP also have your ls members help out and setup ceremony and do it yourself.
    Of course - but why pretend when I can do the action. Like talking about rping and actually getting on my gear and doing it. I dont talk about fighting a dragon and getting his skin to make a powerful armor.

    SE is supporting the elements.
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  9. #1299
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    Quote Originally Posted by odintius View Post
    Believe his point is and im guessing here just that marriage doesn't really serve a actual function in a game compare to in real life.
    Bingo!! No purpose what so ever!

    While neither does "killing dragons and making sole sushi. :/", i see NO ONE currently making a fuss about it!
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  10. #1300
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    marriage in video games, people and there priorities. wtf?
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