Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[AmyNeudaiz]

Damn guys always fighting for equality

It's almost like they want to be treated equally or something, the NERVE!!!!

[Issachar]

Damn those guys always fighting for equality

In the case of online games, they can and do blow things out of proportion. I'm not anti-LGBT, but if a developer doesn't want to accommodate your lifestyle choice, play something else and let the other people have fun instead of making a scene. The feminists could learn this lesson too, to a massive degree.

[Kiroh]

In the case of online games, they can and do blow things out of proportion. I'm not anti-LGBT, but if a developer doesn't want to accommodate your lifestyle choice, play something else and let the other people have fun instead of making a scene. The feminists could learn this lesson too, to a massive degree.

If it's a choice, I defy you to try choosing to be gay.

[Issachar]

A.) If it's a choice, I defy you to try choosing to be gay.

B.) You must be a Republican, anti-gay, anti-women, in complete denial about both.

Expressing your sexuality in a game is a choice. Anyways, no point in talking to a blind extremist like yourself.

Yoshida asked for opinions.

He's getting opinions.

And opinions are what is happening. But when you get schmucks like the other guy I quoted, some opinions are better left unspoken.

EDIT: Just saw your edit. See above. Expressing things that have no real place in a teen-friendly online game is a lifestyle choice. It's not helping your cause.

Anyways, I foresee this turning into a "your opinion is different than my own, so you are a bigot" strawman argument. That's cool. You can just keep assuming I'm a prejudice, straight male. And you'd be wrong on all counts.

[Vilhem]

A.) If it's a choice, I defy you to try choosing to be gay.

B.) You must be a Republican, anti-gay, anti-women, in complete denial about both.

You could have finished after A. There's no need for poo-flinging. That's what gets threads locked.

To Issachar, being gay is no more a lifestyle choice than being straight is. I'm sure you didn't "choose" to be straight. You're just wired that way. Same with gay people.

[Kallivis]

In the case of online games, they can and do blow things out of proportion. I'm not anti-LGBT, but if a developer doesn't want to accommodate your lifestyle choice, play something else and let the other people have fun instead of making a scene. The feminists could learn this lesson too, to a massive degree.

Yoshida asked for opinions.

He's getting opinions.

Edit: lol I just noticed the "lifestyle choice"...... hah!

[Arcell]

how many threads do we need about this? i don't mind it and neither does the majority of the NA population that plays XIV, but gay marriage is taboo in many other parts of the world and if there's one thing i know about the LGBT community is you never stop until you get what you want. is this a big deal in regards to the success of XIV 2.0? no. if you're not going to play the game because they only allow same sex marriage then, well... you need to wake up and smell something because there are much more important things to worry about in 2.0 than this. this is selfish because you're not thinking about the other cultures that we share the game with.

the general idea of marriage being a hot topic for the release XIV is not only sad but a huge waste of SE's resources best used elsewhere.

I don't think anyone's really threatened to quit because of it. Most just feel strongly that marriage should be treated equally for all, that's pretty much it. If SSM isn't included in the game I'm sure most everyone will continue playing, it's just some will miss out on something that should be available to all.

You're right, there may be more "important" things to discuss but we've got all the time in the world to discuss them. Plus this is an issue that is fairly realistic to reach the dev team on. They already seem kind of on the fence based on Yoshida's answer. These threads are here to try to convince them to allow it.

[Kiroh]

how many threads do we need about this? i don't mind it and neither does the majority of the NA population that plays XIV, but gay marriage is taboo in many other parts of the world and if there's one thing i know about the LGBT community is you never stop until you get what you want. is this a big deal in regards to the success of XIV 2.0? no. if you're not going to play the game because they only allow same sex marriage then, well... you need to wake up and smell something because there are much more important things to worry about in 2.0 than this. this is selfish because you're not thinking about the other cultures that we share the game with.

the general idea of marriage being a hot topic for the release XIV is not only sad but a huge waste of SE's resources best used elsewhere.

I don't think anyone here is saying SE needs to make in-game marriage a priority of any sort, simply that if they're going to introduce any kind of marriage system in the game we feel it should include SSM.

Also, if we're being sensitive to culture, how rude is it that other cultures playing this game feel we shouldn't have SSM because of their beliefs? Plain and simple fact is, if you're culturally opposed to SSM, then don't marry someone of the same gender in game. No one is forcing you to participate.

[Chardrizard]

He is got a valid point that making this decision might effect the company as a whole, Not everyone outside US is as open minded when it comes to this issue, it is still taboo to like majority of asian countries.

I am not against this idea but lets be real here, you are not really missing anything when they do not let you have SSM ingame.

[Kiroh]

He is got a valid point that making this decision might effect the company as a whole, Not everyone outside US is as open minded when it comes to this issue, it is still taboo to like majority of asian countries.

I am not against this idea but lets be real here, you are not really missing anything when they do not let you have SSM ingame.

Except the same things that everyone else who can get married has...

Again, if you're culturally opposed to SSM, don't marry someone of the same gender. That's no excuse to deny others the right to.