Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Kallera]

Go back couple pages I used them as example IF they were not they are playing and yes the internet plays a good role in trying to stop it but not everyone so lucky.

So because of what you think Iranian theocrats might do to gamers(but haven't shown they did) that you haven't connected to any other part of the Final Fantasy series (despite the absurd stretch you make in assuming they would be perfectly cool with Bahamut in prior games....) you would beholden the lore of Eorzea to the mores of Islam? That's not only ridiculous, but that ship has already sailed prior to XIV. The media jumps on gaming deaths all the time, yet you cannot provide an example to me of this particular abuse?

But no, we should all think of the tenant and values of the most zealous among us, when we develop stories and lore. Make sure our stories don't step in anything people might respect.

I prefer my fictions to be freer, because I know what fiction is.

[odintius]

So because of what you think Iranian theocrats might do to gamers(but haven't shown they did) that you haven't connected to any other part of the Final Fantasy series (despite the absurd stretch you make in assuming they would be perfectly cool with Bahamut in prior games....) you would beholden the lore of Eorzea to the mores of Islam? That's not only ridiculous, but that ship has already sailed prior to XIV. The media jumps on gaming deaths all the time, yet you cannot provide an example to me of this particular abuse?

But no, we should all think of the tenant and values of the most zealous among us, when we develop stories and lore. Make sure our stories don't step in anything people might respect.

I prefer my fictions to be freer, because I know what fiction is.

So you cannot name any country that would ban this game? I responded to this general question that you gave doesn't say to whom ffxiv is played at all it states that can anyone name any country that would ban and I gave you an example of a country. I suggest you go back and reread that part and Iran is extreme example to use I will apologize for that but ask better questions than that.

Page 118 please read full context of what I've said not just hit last page and think that is the full context of what I've said thanks.

[Arcell]

So you cannot name any country that would ban this game? I responded to this general question that you gave doesn't say to whom ffxiv is played at all it states that can anyone name any country that would ban and I gave you an example of a country. I suggest you go back and reread that part and Iran is extreme example to use I will apologize for that but ask better questions than that.

Well how about this then? Can you name a country which this game is localized for that would ban this game solely on the notion of same-sex marriage in a game. Let's narrow it down to countries that are actively supported by the developers.

The regions supported (going off the main website purely) are Japan, North America, the UK, Germany and France. Now also note that there are a good deal of Spanish-speaking players, some of which have moved to ask the devs to create a Spanish forum. So thus you could include Spain and Mexico, seeing as NA is already supported.

Out of those regions, those that concern the game specifically, which would create some huge outcry over the removal of the restriction?

[odintius]

Well how about this then? Can you name a country which this game is localized for that would ban this game solely on the notion of same-sex marriage in a game. Let's narrow it down to countries that are actively supported by the developers.

The regions supported (going off the main website purely) are Japan, North America, the UK, Germany and France. Now also note that there are a good deal of Spanish-speaking players, some of which have moved to ask the devs to create a Spanish forum. So thus you could include Spain and Mexico, seeing as NA is already supported.

Out of those regions, those that concern the game specifically, which would create some huge outcry over the removal of the restriction?

As I've stated It not a matter of negative consequences maybe to them and I say maybe it a matter of there principle's something they hold dear to and if another company hold to your value same applies to you. Its about respecting both views something that human's have very hard time doing in this day and age. Do I believe it will ban it because of ssm no do I believe in the rights of company's to chose how they want to represent there product no matter the views they might hold yes even ssm.

[AmyNeudaiz]

As I've stated It not a matter of negative consequences maybe to them and I say maybe it a matter of there principle's something they hold dear to and if another company hold to your value same applies to you. Its about respecting both views something that human's have very hard time doing in this day and age. Do I believe it will ban it because of ssm no do I believe in the rights of company's to chose how they want to represent there product no matter the views they might hold yes even ssm.

But your whole argument is based around if it will offend those againsf SSM yet ignoring if it will offend those for it if they restrict it. So much for respecting both views.

[odintius]

But your whole argument is based around if it will offend those againsf SSM yet ignoring if it will offend those for it if they restrict it. So much for respecting both views.

Please click my name and read all the post not just one that are a page back thanks.

[Kallera]

So you cannot name any country that would ban this game? I responded to this general question that you gave doesn't say to whom ffxiv is played at all it states that can anyone name any country that would ban and I gave you an example of a country. I suggest you go back and reread that part and Iran is extreme example to use I will apologize for that but ask better questions than that.

This is a discussion, not Jeopardy. Anyone could've used a theocratic country in the middle east or central africa, but is there a sizable grouo of mmo players or ff fans there? Why would the country's sensibilities have to be courted over the opinions of the players in this thread?

Iran is an extreme example, its also a poor example because there are other things in prior versions of the game that do not square with muslim mythology, but there is no proof of any issue between Iran and Square Enix. Either it has been living under a rock for many years and has only now found final fantasy series with xiv, or it hasn't and the theocrats saw the summons such as Ifrit , Bahamut, Diabolos and Leviathan as "meh".

[odintius]

This is a discussion, not Jeopardy. Anyone could've used a theocratic country in the middle east or central africa, but is there a sizable grouo of mmo players or ff fans there? Why would the country's sensibilities have to be courted over the opinions of the players in this thread?

Iran is an extreme example, its also a poor example because there are other things in prior versions of the game that do not square with muslim mythology, but there is no proof of any issue between Iran and Square Enix. Either it has been living under a rock for many years and has only now found final fantasy series with xiv, or it hasn't and the theocrats saw the summons such as Ifrit , Bahamut, Diabolos and Leviathan as "meh".

And your is to extremely poor example of why they should or should not have ssm imo its the company choice not your's or any others how if they implement it. People with an ideology only listen to what they want to hear and expect everyone around them to just jump aboard and not have a different view of things. This thread seem to only cater to a one sided view on things and a how dare someone disagree with my view attitude this is the only reason this thread even still going atm.

[odintius]

Enjoy the thread peace.

[Warlock]

And your is to extremely poor example of why they should or should not have ssm imo its the company choice not your's or any others how if they implement it. People with an ideology only listen to what they want to hear and expect everyone around them to just jump aboard and not have a different view of things. This thread seem to only cater to a one sided view on things and a how dare someone disagree with my view attitude this is the only reason this thread even still going atm.

Amen to that brother . Everything like a coin has two sides one not bigger than the other