Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Cojika]

I find it cute when people bring up the argument "stop bringing real life into Final Fantasy XIV"

I find it cute when people propose a discussion then throw a fit when people don't blindly and unconditionally agree with them. I didn't say a thing about being opposed to gay and lesbian relationships irl or ingame. Like I said before, I am really for the soul partner idea(even for straight couples).

You seem to be here to argue just for the sake of arguing. All i can really tell you is that if you don't like my opinion deal with it because it's not going to change regardless of how much you rage and twist my words around to your benefit.

So "basic human rights" is bs, but the "regard for people in other countries where this is not allowed" isn't?

I worded that a bit awkwardly, but I meant that I wasn't here to talk about human rights or whether it's right or not for GLBT people to do what they do(people can do w/e they want), which is what was IMMEDIATELY thrown at me the second I showed even a hint of opposition to this idea; regardless of whether or not I said I opposed such relationships(i didn't).
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That being said my part in bumping this thread/taking part in it is done. I hope that SE can come up with something that everyone can be happy with(haha yeah right, who am I kidding).

[KiriA500]

1) FFXIV should not have marriages in the game at all. They are stupid/silly and add needless drama to the game. I know of several endgame FFXI linkshells that broke up over the absurd marriage drama in that game.

I'll put money on it that more end-game drama was caused by end-game than an in-game marriage. All end-game did was breed drama.

[Zantetsuken]

That being said my part in bumping this thread/taking part in it is done..

I know I'm not going to convince any SSM activists on this. We just have a fundamental disconnect on the definition of what marriage actually is.

If we can't even agree on the premise, then we are just arguing apples and oranges. No amount of discussion will ever bridge that gap.

So yeah, I'm done as well.

Hopefully SE will play it smart and sidestep this entire issue in ARR.

[Nix]

and 90% of this planet, are against.

Really? Because I highly doubt that.

I can understand that you are against it, but if you want to make a valid point, please be less of a fool in doing so and the forum may be more receptive to you.

[Kiote]

We're on a game forum that we all pay for and there is an almost 80 page thread talking about something I, and 90% of this planet, are against.

And by 90% of the Planet, you mean a Minority of Americans and some African countries that had it forced on them so hard they fear it.

[Arcell]

Really? Because I highly doubt that.

I can understand that you are against it, but if you want to make a valid point, please be less of a fool in doing so and the forum may be more receptive to you.

Going out on a limb here but I THINK he might be trolling. I certainly hope so at least.

Being against same sex marriage is taking an exclusive and restrictive stance, wanting only heterosexual couple marriage.

Being for same sex marriage is taking an inclusive and open stance, wanting everyone to be able to marry.

In the way it concerns FFXIV, why would you not want all players to have equal access to any in-game feature? People wouldn't want any other feature of the game restricted based on character genders, this one shouldn't be either.

Yoshida and SE's concern should be with their players, a vast majority of which are either for or indifferent to the addition of same sex marriage along side opposite sex marriage. In just this thread over 75% of the votes are for and very few posts are outright against. Most arguing against are simply against marriage as a whole, not marriage equality.

[Nix]

Going out on a limb here but I THINK he might be trolling. I certainly hope so at least.

I hope so too ; ; haha; I don't mind people not sharing the same viewpoints but when they conduct themselves as he has done then I'm all o(`皿´メ)o /rawr!

[Twiddle]

Do to the long wait time, what me and my ex-girlfriend did (in ffxi) was. Craft signed level 1 rings for wedding bands, exchanged them, and called it good. In ARR if we can do the same. Than all is good. Our character were not same gender, but for all intent and purpose could have been. Game wise married or not will probably make no difference so i am really indifferent which way SE goes on this one.

[Kiote]

I know I'm not going to convince any SSM activists on this. We just have a fundamental disconnect on the definition of what marriage actually is.

That is the problem with everyone who is opposed to gay marriage. Your trying to defend a definition for something that was not it's original definition and has not actually been it's definition for the better part of a hundred years. Worse, your trying to use a definition that was only ever accepted by a Minority of a Single religion.

"Marriage", in the United States of America, is a Legal Contract between two consenting adults to share all Property, Wealth and Debt in exchange for Tax intensives and other legal benefits. It has nothing to do with Religion.

The World should not be Subject to your Religion just because you believe in it.

[Arcell]

Should probably get back on topic.

I hope we can at least get an answer of some kind soon. I mean I know they heard it before with the initial desire for marriage as a whole but we need them to see how the players on this forum at least feel about the restriction specifically.