Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[EnkiOro]

It would be kind of funny if, in some way, they only added same-sex marriage. The fits that people would throw, lol. Oooh, what I would pay to see the forums on that day.

[Zantetsuken]

This argument as someone already said is completely ridiculous and has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. Get back on topic or at the very least provide an argument to the person you were replying to that actually holds some water.

The last several pages of this thread have been filled with pontifications over not restricting sexual activity long as nobody is harmed. There is a serious flaw in that logic and used the following to my point:

A peeping tom (who is not caught by the victim, and does not distribute any materials relating to it) is someone who is engaging in their sexual preference without harming anyone.

On what standing do we have to make it illegal?


If you can't answer that question, then the "as long as they're not hurting anyone argument" is null and void.

[Zyph]

You know what's funny? People are saying "Oh they'll be affected by displays of the gay marriage"

Except that the only thing people will see will be wedding rings when checked. Just like everyone else who's married. It's not like a stream of hearts are going to be connecting two players every time they're within a malm of each other.

[Colvin]

What its about is equality. It's as if people didn't learn from equal rights movements in the past.....

It isn't a problem of equality. Making a cloud statement like everyone should have equality doesnt take in to account the fact that at SOME POINT there needs to be a limit. There are people who love their animals enough to want to marry them and have sex with them.

People follow this up by saying "of course that is wrong... the animal doesnt know better". Who gets to make these decisions about the limits to what is right and wrong?

Society at large does and it evolves by the day. Right now there is a more vocal group on about the inclusion and acception of same-sexual relations. In 50-100 years it could be more acceptable to be gay or LESS acceptable... who knows? maybe we will all keep sheep in a closet for our "needs".

All you can do as a business is see what the majority want RIGHT NOW and go with that.

[Reika]

It isn't a problem of equality. Making a cloud statement like everyone should have equality doesnt take in to account the fact that at SOME POINT there needs to be a limit. There are people who love their animals enough to want to marry them and have sex with them.

People follow this up by saying "of course that is wrong... the animal doesnt know better". Who gets to make these decisions about the limits to what is right and wrong?

Society at large does and it evolves by the day. Right now there is a more vocal group on about the inclusion and acception of same-sexual relations. In 50-100 years it could be more acceptable to be gay or LESS acceptable... who knows? maybe we will all keep sheep in a closet for our "needs".

All you can do as a business is see what the majority want RIGHT NOW and go with that.

So what youre saying is, gay people are animals. At least, I hope you aren't trying to relate 2 same sex people getting married to a person marrying an animal.

[Loggos]

Depends on your opinion of mutual. Most psychologists say anyone under the age of 17 can't completely understand the sexual experience from an emotional standpoint. Something I vehemontly disagree with.

The sexual understanding within teenage period is indeed quite difficult. There are surely some that are mature enough but I think there are also people who would probably let themselves being exploited. It's very indiviudal. On the other hand law just needs to have a time limit to measure it even if it does not apply to all individuals to have a ground for justice at all. And since with 18 the right of self-determination becomes valid for an individual no one can possibly hinder a person to do what they want to do in this matter. I agree that this is problematic from both the individuals' and the politic point of view.


@ Zantetsuken

Well but you said it yourself. IF I was about to find out about it then I would feel VERY harmed. Only because I don't know about something it isn't more mutual from my side.
Let me set up my definition for mutual then:

To me mutual means when two person agree on something/have the same feeling on something or would have so if both knew about it.

Let's have another example: Say you have serious documents like your banking account datas/ money transfer data etc. It has a reason why those are private. I wouldn't like to have anyone spy on my bank account (without robbing it - just observing). There are just some issues that are part of an individual privacy and to hurt this privacy is not correct, even if the person doesn't know of it.

[Kallera]

The last several pages of this thread have been filled with pontifications over not restricting sexual activity long as nobody is harmed. There is a serious flaw in that logic and used the following to my point:

A peeping tom (who is not caught by the victim, and does not distribute any materials relating to it) is someone who is engaging in their sexual preference without harming anyone.

On what standing do we have to make it illegal?


If you can't answer that question, then you can't use the argument.

Violation of privacy laws. which have nothing to do with marriage equality.

[Zantetsuken]

I actually think that same-sex Marriage and opposite-sex marriage ARE equal in an MMO.

Nobody can procreate in a video game after-all (or even have sex for that matter).

[Wynn]

Considering the majority of my posts on this account thus far have been in this thread and I've been pressuring equality in virtually every single post I would imagine you would of taken note of that by now.

I'm just making an extra point that if they don't implement it, the people who are "disgusted" by it are going to be being hit with far more displays of it throughout the game.

As if people don't see tons of manqo'te flirting with each other on a daily basis in this game already. I mean, the reality is that people who hate homosexuality are faced with it every single day everywhere they turn in today's world. It's no longer considered a disease. It is a normal part of life that no longer has to be hidden. Just because they didn't get the memo, doesn't make it not true.

It's on TV, it's on the radio, it's in books, it's in newspapers, it's their neighbors, it's their neice or nephew, it's their kid. They have managed to stick their heads in the sand for all of this. It won't kill them to keep on keepin on in XIV either.

And to be quite frank, in this day and age it should not be acceptible to deny equality to a group of people because another group doesn't want them to have it.

[Zantetsuken]

Violation of privacy laws. which have nothing to do with marriage equality.

So, if a man disguises himself as a woman and hangs out in a woman's locker room, he is guilty of violating the privacy of those women?