Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[Fylion]

That would be great :3 .

Because "marriage" only carries with it the connotation of tax breaks and climbing up the social ladder, as it should.

[Valk]

The guy just posted his opinion about it and how he dislikes it, why are you attacking him? it's a discussion board, you can't force your opinions on others, it's like you guys are only looking for people who support this Same-Sex marriage to reply, hello? "discussion board", different opinions are always welcome as long as they don't offend anyone.
Just like everyone else in this world, SquareEnix had the option to either go Go-Gays or Go-Straights.. they chose the later, if LGBT was approved of in Japan things would go different, just live with it.
I don't care whether they add this option in the game or not, but if it was for me I'd say "No." Not that I care about peoples' choices, I have friends IRL who chose to be Gay/Bi-sexual, they are good to me even though they know where I stand about their preferences.

[EnkiOro]

I don't live in a place which allows same-sex marriage :3 . Also, we were created a male & female for a reason so try to use your mind please, thats about real life, for this game i see friendship or whatever close to it... is good enough .

Finally, i see that we have to focus on other important things in game to make it more fun .

You're parting from the premise that we were created. Not everyone believes in that. I understand that your social background doesn't allow same-sex relationships (quick googling tells me you're maybe from Singapore?). I don't think it's too much to ask that you take a step back, and realize that the world is so big, and has so many different people... Why don't you try to broaden the limits of your mind and see that maybe (just maybe) other things than the ones you've been taught exist, and they're equally as beautiful as the ones you like.

You probably play with friends that have your same ideals, and that's just fine. If that's the case, same-sex marriage doesn't have to affect you in any way, and thus I don't see the reason why would you be so against it.

Not that I care about peoples' choices, I have friends IRL who chose to be Gay/Bi-sexual, they are good to me even though they know where I stand about their preferences.

Did you choose to be straight? Guess I missed that day of school, when they allowed us to choose our sexuality.

[Kallivis]

I have friends IRL who chose to be Gay/Bi-sexual, they are good to me even though they know where I stand about their preferences.

You don't choose to be gay or straight, this is one reason people who support it get annoyed by these sorts of comments. They come off as ignorant and insulting.

There is a difference between bringing up a constructive comment about why you don't want it, and outright saying things like "it's morally debased" or "it's disgusting".

There have been a lot of good ideas in the thread and constructive comments from both sides, but there are people who are naturally indignant when it comes to unjust comments.

[ShinigamiKayla]

I don't live in a place which allows same-sex marriage :3 . Also, we were created a male & female for a reason so try to use your mind please, thats about real life, for this game i see friendship or whatever close to it... is good enough .

then explain to me the psychological and genetic aspects of a human being and how they don't factor into just being male and female... love is love... no matter sex race whatever... even if on a game love itself should be respected >.>... if we are created men and women... then why are we all not the same... our experiences are all differences people like different things... let them do what they like... I for one love cooking and eating hot animal flesh... steaks = <3 I'm a carnivore o.o some people are vegetarians won't touch meat... NOW IM OFFENDED AT PEOPLE WHO DON'T EAT MEAT but I respect their right to have their damned own opinions... now I think I'm off topic but seriously o.o

do what you like people if it makes you happy so be it... and it will make me happy to see so many more people happy then it shows how many people think its negative... if the majority will be more happy then the people negative its a good thing...

I'm not a very happy person but if I can make another person smile then it was worth it o.o if I can make many people smile then its worth it... if you don't want people to smile then what are you a man a woman or just a dirty rat who believes no ones fit for happiness...

[Mardel]

Comment about accepting others and different ideals, and refusing to accept that guy's ideal. I love forums.

For this reason alone I support the "use the church how you want" idea. If I was SE I wouldn't even want to deal with this >.>

[Vilhem]

I don't live in a place which allows same-sex marriage :3 . Also, we were created a male & female for a reason so try to use your mind please, thats about real life, for this game i see friendship or whatever close to it... is good enough .

Finally, i see that we have to focus on other important things in game to make it more fun .

lolwut. I also live in an area where SSM isn't allowed (hello Bible Belt of America). Just because my state's laws ban it, doesn't mean I abide by it or believe its just.

I am using my mind, thank you. Male and female sexes were created for reproduction, not as a "standard" for what defines a relationship. Draconian society established that standard based on a book of mostly fairy tales.

The love two people share goes beyond any fairy tale book or law dictates. I urge you to "use your mind" instead of letting society dictate what you consider acceptable or not. And that is all I will say to you on that.

[Yellow]

I keep seeing this issue of people saying they don't want SSM in FFXIV:ARR with their reasons based from their p.o.v IRL. Then we have the people saying 'keep your RL views out of this in game discussion blah blah'.

Sorry, but in order to have a constructive and coherent discussion, we for all intents and purpose have to use information outside of this game to try and get a clear reason why these people object to it.

If it means informing them, then so be it.

I have friends IRL who chose to be Gay/Bi-sexual, they are good to me even though they know where I stand about their preferences.

No one chooses. It's not my opinion, it is experience that not only myself, but many (if not every) bisexual/homosexual individuals have. They accept that, that is who they are, and no good will come from hiding or denying it.

I'd really like to see a good reason why they don't want SSM in ARR. All I am seeing is 'AMG ITZ IMMORALLLL'. Killing is immoral too, are you going to stop that in ARR?

But as it goes, I haven't seen one remotely good reason as to why there shouldn't be SSM in ARR.. I don't think a good reason actually exists.. I don't think I've seen more than one.. sort of.. reason.


Also lol, how many abbreviations do I want to use?!

[Fylion]

The guy just posted his opinion about it and how he dislikes it, why are you attacking him? it's a discussion board, you can't force your opinions on others, it's like you guys are only looking for people who support this Same-Sex marriage to reply, hello? "discussion board", different opinions are always welcome as long as they don't offend anyone.
Just like everyone else in this world, SquareEnix had the option to either go Go-Gays or Go-Straights.. they chose the later, if LGBT was approved of in Japan things would go different, just live with it.
I don't care whether they add this option in the game or not, but if it was for me I'd say "No." Not that I care about peoples' choices, I have friends IRL who chose to be Gay/Bi-sexual, they are good to me even though they know where I stand about their preferences.

Oh... just awaiting the day when everyone reads modern scholarly literature. For the majority of the gay population it's not a choice; huge research endeavors in genetics and biochemistry (especially neurochemistry) have found that individual will has nothing to do with the issue. (Can't speak for Trans, as that research isn't as well funded or popular.) To avoid derailing the issue: send me a message or something if you want links to the studies.

[Kona4me]

I understand your views and seeing how you live in a country where they don't see same-sex marriage. I can understand why you feel that way you grow up knowing right from wrong from your country. But it's time to stop living in the dark ages yoshi-p live in japan where they don't even recognized same-sex marriage and he still having a open mind about it due to the fact that it's time to move from it

What you said feels weird... i don't see it open-mind related at all when its about a shameless act. Also, Health issues as well for people who would do it, especially gays :3 .


Anyways this makes me even disgusted so i'll end it here :3 .