Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
Thevedis and others alike are missing the one problem with your views on casuals. You aren't referring to the casuals that want easy content but the small group of individuals that might want said content. Wanting huge time sinks also does not make you hardcore. Both sides have a small niche that seems to want something that isn't worth the Dev teams focus to bring this game into prosperity.

Hardcore(the niche group) wants major time sinks on almost everything so THEY can have fun.
Casual (niche group) wants easy mode [I WIN BUTTON] content.

Both sides have stronger supporters that want challenging and engaging content. Not huge time sinks or easy mode buttons since those are not the paths that create an engaging experience for the majority. Modern MMOs should not use huge time sinks or easy content to attract people. Attracting to the majority is rather simple since the grey area is very common for True Hardcore AND Casual gamers. Not just people that are lazy or have the ability to play 22hrs a day.

I agree with this.


Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
actualy, we realize what the arguement is, but look at the last few pages especialy and you will see the true face of what the hardcores are trying to avoid

a bunch of posters saying, quite specificaly, that they should be able to achieve in 1 hour, what it takes hardcores several hours to do. Purely because they dont have as much time to commit to it.

I have a feeling a lot of the people you are referring to belong to the [I want a Win Button] niche camp. Not all Casuals are like that.

Again, I brought it up before, but people make unfair assumptions about players who are X or Y. Should I assume that all Black people want to eat Fried Chicken every night? (please don't take offense, just using a ridiculous example to illustrate a point)