What XIV can take from XI to make it better

[Warlock]

It's a bit of a conundrum because alot of how you diversified your character from others was often your gear choices. It's hard to differentiate yourself from others in XIV because there is 0 real diversity to work with.

You can't work on your Solo Evasion set, instead of beefing up your SATA gear. While I think gear is the wrong way to go in terms of larger diversity, the game really does need some depth to it. It's extremly shallow as it stands (Let's hope 2.0 fixes this a bit) But I can't imagine it will at launch.

We need something like Merits (Well thought out, so that it's not just a cookie cutter merit setup) Let people be creative with how they want their character to stand out from others preformance wise, encourage people to focus on only a few classes instead of encouraging people to slog through all the classes just for the cross class skills making them play something they don't like. If I want to be the best Blackmage I can be...why should I have to level a healer? FFXI actually had the same problem with the sub-job system but at least it capped out at half the max level making the trip rather short to a sub-job.

Hopefully when we play 2.0 my Dragoon might play a bit differently than the next Dragoon standing beside me.

Wrong ....whoever did this was called out gimp... goal in FFXI was to always have the best piece for each situation slot by slot so everyone geared up towards to same

[strallaalaa]

Wrong ....whoever did this was called out gimp... goal in FFXI was to always have the best piece for each situation slot by slot so everyone geared up towards to same

it still diversified people, it did it gear wise. no offense but people that want to rush threw can do it with others that want to rush threw it half naked. when people spend the 10-30k it took to gear up a little b4 say going to the dunes for first time and people say to others why the f' are you naked still then well it helps diversify lol. it's already more diverse then other mmo's where you usually end up leaving each tier zones in the best gear without trying.

you can't make people that take the time to play and gear up play with you, it won't happen. if anything they still will roll with people who play 10hrs a day rather then people who log in a few hours a week. why would someone pimp out in triple melds, get best gears in game, do 100's of hours of time and then party with half naked players in a party all day? i don't think they are elitist though some might be but i can see how they feel about it. people bitch at brd in ffxi back in day cause they only pt with best merit groups, but if you take the time to level a brd just for merit farming, and you have the best gears on any class for it. you dont' want to spend 2 or 4times the amount of time it would take for a group filled with like dressed players. and there isn't anything wrong with that. you save time on gearing, you waist some on slower leveling.

in the end though if they make everyone have the same sets of gear like mmo's like gw2 where you just spam a dungeon over and over for tokens and buy your crappy gear and then have nothing to do, the mmo's will die out and become a FTP. always having new gear to hunt is a good thing, situational are awesome, you can keep farming to diverse yourself from those who don't have them

[ShinigamiKayla]

it still diversified people, it did it gear wise. no offense but people that want to rush threw can do it with others that want to rush threw it half naked. when people spend the 10-30k it took to gear up a little b4 say going to the dunes for first time and people say to others why the f' are you naked still then well it helps diversify lol. it's already more diverse then other mmo's where you usually end up leaving each tier zones in the best gear without trying.

you can't make people that take the time to play and gear up play with you, it won't happen. if anything they still will roll with people who play 10hrs a day rather then people who log in a few hours a week. why would someone pimp out in triple melds, get best gears in game, do 100's of hours of time and then party with half naked players in a party all day? i don't think they are elitist though some might be but i can see how they feel about it. people bitch at brd in ffxi back in day cause they only pt with best merit groups, but if you take the time to level a brd just for merit farming, and you have the best gears on any class for it. you dont' want to spend 2 or 4times the amount of time it would take for a group filled with like dressed players. and there isn't anything wrong with that. you save time on gearing, you waist some on slower leveling.

in the end though if they make everyone have the same sets of gear like mmo's like gw2 where you just spam a dungeon over and over for tokens and buy your crappy gear and then have nothing to do, the mmo's will die out to FTP. always having new gear to hunt is a good thing, situational are awesome, you can keep farming to diverse yourself from those who don't have them

how do FTP mmos fund themselves though? its a scare even with a game like GW2... what if they sold fewer then 100k copies... they would of been broke >.> and not released the game at all lol... FTP mmos are a huger risk then subscription MMOs even for investors... subscriptions are a solid thing that you know that your going to get paid when your waiting on box sells you don't know how your going to do >.>

[Jynx]

Wrong ....whoever did this was called out gimp...

Wrong whoever did what you suggest is a Elitist.

Even the most hardcore Elitists had to pick and choose what gear sets they worked on first, and therefore unless you had everything the game had to offer the chances are you had a much different gear set than most at the end of the game. There were a few standalone peices that people used as fill-in between the higher tiers of gear but chances are you were always wanting for one item or another.

So I guess everyone in XI was gimp becasue it was very rare to have every item for every slot you wanted.

[TomCarroll]

Wrong whoever did what you suggest is a Elitist.

False.

In XI, your gear was indicative of your build. There was no way to play "Your way" and still be good at the game. Rather than having a cookie-cutter talent setup; your gear was what made you cookie-cutter.

[Jynx]

False.

So not having a Ridill made someone gimp?

I'm sorry but even the most hardened players struggled to get some of the best items in the game, so in turn calling everyone who didn't have the best gear setup "Gimp" is the most illogical thing you could do.

I'm not sure your understanding what I am saying, the poster I quoted seems to call anyone not top-notch geared "Gimp" when in turn not a single person in the game was top notch geared (At least post 75 cap) That was the point of the game there was always a slot that you could work on to make your character better. If you had everything the game had to offer you quickly lost interest in the game and left it happened to many Relic weapon players in the early days.

Having the hands down best items in the game, makes it stale really quick (Merits helped this out alot as well) Gear was a long term goal in the game and you were always working on your gear sets. The only time I'd call someone gimp is if they had a "Weaponskill setup" that did nothing for their weaponskills and just didn't actually try.

[Elexia]

False.

In XI, your gear was indicative of your build. There was no way to play "Your way" and still be good at the game. Rather than having a cookie-cutter talent setup; your gear was what made you cookie-cutter.

I've seen plenty DRGs solo "their way" without having an Ares body piece, you know the "required" body piece for DRG solo?