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    The point of a vanity system is to have more freedom over your appearance. If your appearance can be toggled off by others, the vanity system is pointless. One can change their appearance for themselves with .dat swaps or probably some add-on for ARR if they wanted to. That's not the point, and it doesn't necessarily have to be considered selfish.

    However, the vanity system with pure freedom works better on some MMOs that are heavily about their social side, not one where there's an existing theme. So seeing people in event gear doing endgame content would be incredibly silly as a regular thing. Seeing people in shirts that look good but dont have nice stats on the other hand is perfectly fine.

    So, yes to restrictions on vanity slots. No to toggle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    The point of a vanity system is to have more freedom over your appearance.
    You will still have this freedom, just people who choose to toggle it won't see it. How does that affect you or your gameplay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    You will still have this freedom, just people who choose to toggle it won't see it. How does that affect you or your gameplay?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    I assume some people feel a vanity system is pointless if they can't force everyone to look at them running around in Bikinis.

    Personally I'm all for a toggle and job restrictions to stay even with vanity items.
    It's a very simple notion really. The point of the vanity system is control over how you appear to others. The name implies it all. Vanity. If people have any control over how they see you by default, then the system is fundamentally flawed and pointless.

    Most of the valid arguments, if not all, against vanity is regarding people wearing silly crap that will destroy the feel of the game, such as event gear or gear they can't normally equip. If they make it so vanity slots work the same as regular slots in terms of what you can equip, and make it so event items cannot be placed in vanity slots then there's no problem here. So no bikinis and reindeers in actual content. If people wanna rock the seasonal gear, they already can as town gear. FFXIV is not a game where you go dressed as a reindeer to fight Odin. I'm sorry, that should never be possible as a viable strat in this game, unless it's some low-stat challenge.

    Oh, in before someone tries to counter with not being able to see if people are properly geared right away. Check them. Done. That's the most desperate argument in this thread really. It's much more selfish than the "people should see me the way I chose to look" argument on the anti-toggle side.
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    Last edited by NoctisUmbra; 10-21-2012 at 04:44 AM.