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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannythm View Post
    I love it, now we won't probably see anything like that any time soon.

    I'm glad to see enough people understood Tanaka's vision. It's a shame it was so badly carried over the game.
    Someone read the whole post! That makes me really happy...

    And yeah, it's a shame that more people don't keep in mind two things when evaluating Tanaka's vision -- that (1) it was never completed, and (2) Tanaka isn't that great when it comes to implementing said ideas...

    The vision's there, we just can't see it. : (

    But I wish that implied the need to scout out the possibilities, rather than just call the line of thought itself bad because it never got anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Tanaka: all content was soloable. People joined only party for the better exp, not because they couldn't do it solo.
    Yoshi: party content that is not soloable
    Yoshi will kill XIV, he taking the game too far 1 way and there really isnt a balance. Yoshi has got a lot to learn in a short period of time and at the rate he isnt gonna learn it fast enough. I would rather have had tanaka finish what he started but the CEO didnt wanna wait. Maybe Tanaka did have his faults but he is still the better choice than Yoshi. Tanaka had some great ideas when it was done right.
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    Tanaka - without argument had a firm vision of what he wanted. He did this well. He did not wavier, he knew what he wanted and did it irregardless of the reviews and flames. That's pretty cool.

    That being said - not everyone liked what he wanted ... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Someone read the whole post! That makes me really happy...

    And yeah, it's a shame that more people don't keep in mind two things when evaluating Tanaka's vision -- that (1) it was never completed, and (2) Tanaka isn't that great when it comes to implementing said ideas...

    The vision's there, we just can't see it. : (

    But I wish that implied the need to scout out the possibilities, rather than just call the line of thought itself bad because it never got anywhere.
    Well, I't smy thread, I'm gonna read what people post in it =). I agree it' a shame Yoshi disregarded everything tanaka did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    Yoshi is an idiot period, I would rather have had tanaka finish what he started but the CEO didnt wanna wait.
    I don't think he's an idiot, but he just want to amke the game successful, not inovate. I'm also kinda sad that we are not going to experience tanaka vision fixed and at it's fullest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Tanaka - without argument had a firm vision of what he wanted. He did this well. He did not wavier, he knew what he wanted and did it irregardless of the reviews and flames. That's pretty cool.

    That being said - not everyone liked what he wanted ... lol
    He had great ideas, but as stated, the execution was really poor and made the game almost unplayable.
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    1.0 and Tanaka had no future. Chicken without head - thats what happened.

    I really didn't see anything big happen with the game before he got replaced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    1.0 and Tanaka had no future. Chicken without head - thats what happened.


    What do you think Yoshi is gonna do? He sure as hell isnt any better than Tanaka. Yoshi dosent have the balls to make this game stand out he is too afraid of going that extra mile. Instead all Yoshi is doing is playing it safe, if Yoshi cant make this game stand out it will follow all the other MMO's that plain failed. At least tanaka had a vision and if he was given the time he needed XIV would have been something much better.
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    Last edited by Maxthunder; 10-20-2012 at 07:28 AM.

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    I enjoyed the guildleve system, it made leveling crafting significantly easier than it was in XI, and if you did well, you would recieve a reward in both gil and materials.

    I like the idea of having to maintain your gear, as it encourages people to learn a craft. I also liked the gathering system, once you got the hang of it, you could practically choose what you wanted to gather with a good chance of success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    What do you think Yoshi is gonna do? He sure as hell isnt any better than Tanaka. Yoshi dosent have the balls to make this game stand out he is too afraid of going that extra mile. Instead all Yoshi is doing is playing it safe, if Yoshi cant make this game stand out it will follow all the other MMO's that plain failed. At least tanaka had a vision and if he was given the time he needed XIV would have been something much better.
    SE can't let a numbered FF game fail, that's why they're playing on the safe side and trying to make the game more up to modern standards. I have no doubt there will eventually be things totally unique to this game later on down the road. Right now they just have to actually get something running that more people will enjoy, which will in turn make the game profitable. Wada wouldn't stake re-creating a game if he didn't think it wouldn't end up turning a profit; that's what SE is in business for after all.

    I think the mass exodus after the first month of the game proves no matter how much time Tanaka was given, this game was not going to succeed with his vision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Tanaka's xiv was unique with things no other games had.
    and look how well that worked out

    look
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    SE can't let a numbered FF game fail, that's why they're playing on the safe side and trying to make the game more up to modern standards. I have no doubt there will eventually be things totally unique to this game later on down the road. Right now they just have to actually get something running that more people will enjoy, which will in turn make the game profitable. Wada wouldn't stake re-creating a game if he didn't think it wouldn't end up turning a profit; that's what SE is in business for after all.

    I think the mass exodus after the first month of the game proves no matter how much time Tanaka was given, this game was not going to succeed with his vision.

    First it isnt the companies choice, regardless of what they think, its up to the player base, XIV maybe well be the 1st failed FF in its series. Reason is as Yoshi has done the CEO is making the same mistake by under-estimating the player base. That right there was the 1st mistake and may well be the last one they make in regards to XIV. Some players wont give it a 2nd chance and this is there last ditch effort and alot of players wont give it a 3rd chance. Its a wait and see attitude with 2.0. Word of mouth will have the biggest impact on 2.0 so Yoshi and the CEO better be damn well be ready if 2.0 isnt up to par.
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