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  1. #421
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Santa suits is real armor? I think the problem here is you havent experienced enough real life.

    Samurai helmets are obviously armors -_-...
    I think you haven't played enough fantasy games. You know, fantasy, as in "clothes do not need to match the setting"? As in "Plate mail in a volcano"? As in "Revealing armor in Beaucedine Glacier"?
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  2. #422
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    Zantetsuken's Avatar
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    Siorai Aduaidh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Unless vanity is automatically off [...] it should be limited
    I agree, the default setting should be off -- make vanity an 'opt-in system'.

    Then we don't have to worry about arbitrary limitations on what gear can be used with it - and nobody can complain that they can't dress however they like.

    I suppose a nice thing about a vanity system is that future gear can be designed with more realistic stats as people using vanity slots won't care what it looks like.
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    Last edited by Zantetsuken; 10-20-2012 at 04:08 AM.

  3. #423
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I think you haven't played enough fantasy games. You know, fantasy, as in "clothes do not need to match the setting"? As in "Plate mail in a volcano"? As in "Revealing armor in Beaucedine Glacier"?
    Almost all games strive for a ground of reality and fantasy. I dont know why I need to explain this concept - but yes you are right plate mail in a volcano lolz wtf, but there is too much reality that you cant include it all.

    But simple concepts like "cloth armor isnt as strong a metal armor" is so so so so so so so so common. Why? .. I hope you can answer that yourself.

    Maybe you want to play a game where the plausible logic is thrown out the window. But I dont.
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  4. #424
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    Baxter's Avatar
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    Baxsio Mataele
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    I can't wait to break the immersion of thousands by rocking a pumpkin head, dream robe, subligar, and dream boots with my /display mh off and 'jump'ing constantly all over town while shoveling handfuls of poison frogs in my lantern like mouth.
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  5. #425
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Almost all games strive for a ground of reality and fantasy. I dont know why I need to explain this concept - but yes you are right plate mail in a volcano lolz wtf, but there is too much reality that you cant include it all.

    But simple concepts like "cloth armor isnt as strong a metal armor" is so so so so so so so so common. Why? .. I hope you can answer that yourself.

    Maybe you want to play a game where the plausible logic is thrown out the window. But I dont.
    Best stop playing right now. A open Linen Shirt beats a suit of Iron scale mail.
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  6. #426
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    Breladine's Avatar
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    Breladine Mahr
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    Balmung
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    It's a role-playing game. Looking the way you want is a really great part of developing your unique character, so I for one am looking forward to vanity slots.

    I'm also 100% against any sort of toggle for people to be able to choose "not" to see vanity slots. I'm not just wanting to look the part of my character for my own benefit.. I fully intend for everyone else to see my look as well. I think having a toggle is somewhat stupid.

    If some people "abuse" the system by running around in Christmas attire, so what? Roll your eyes and move on.
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    No leeching, No PL'ing, just 100% playing the game.

  7. #427
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breladine View Post
    It's a role-playing game. Looking the way you want is a really great part of developing your unique character, so I for one am looking forward to vanity slots.

    I'm also 100% against any sort of toggle for people to be able to choose "not" to see vanity slots. I'm not just wanting to look the part of my character for my own benefit.. I fully intend for everyone else to see my look as well. I think having a toggle is somewhat stupid.

    If some people "abuse" the system by running around in Christmas attire, so what? Roll your eyes and move on.
    This, very much this. Not everything needs a toggle.
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  8. #428
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    Teuciont Arbedechi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breladine View Post
    It's a role-playing game. Looking the way you want is a really great part of developing your unique character, so I for one am looking forward to vanity slots.

    I'm also 100% against any sort of toggle for people to be able to choose "not" to see vanity slots. I'm not just wanting to look the part of my character for my own benefit.. I fully intend for everyone else to see my look as well. I think having a toggle is somewhat stupid.

    If some people "abuse" the system by running around in Christmas attire, so what? Roll your eyes and move on.
    "I want to be able to do what I want and there's nothing you can do about it. Deal with it." No, I don't think so. You get the option for vanity. We should get the option to turn it off.
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  9. #429
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Shouldn't it be within the realm of possibility to make vanity sets client side only? If you can see that you're in a reindeer suit when fighting, that should suffice. Everyone else shouldn't have to see what you want to perceive yourself wearing.
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  10. #430
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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    Shouldn't it be within the realm of possibility to make vanity sets client side only? If you can see that you're in a reindeer suit when fighting, that should suffice. Everyone else shouldn't have to see what you want to perceive yourself wearing.
    Not really. Most people have in mind displaying your unique look to others. If this was the case, people would do what they did in FFXI and just swap .dat's around.
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