[Suggestion] Fashion/Vanity Slots.

[moriandrio]

That's a pretty bad assumtion - that the art team would purposefully degrade their own work.

It's also not true that this makes it "less RPG" as character development does not always = better gear.

A game that is not about getting better gear you can change "RPG" with "Fashion show" ^^

[Zantetsuken]

WOW is full cosplay shit now, not like a RPG anymore,
no more dream for high end gears.
the gear designers are lazy & don't care how bad the new gear looking.
because they know if they don't do it right, player will just use the old designs

That's a pretty bad assumtion - that the art team would purposefully degrade their own work..

Wait, WoW has an art team??

About time...When do they start?

[Ladon]

Eh.....

I'd rather see quests to reforge AF to better stats rather than vanity slots. There's a very careful and specific progression in armor in these Final Fantasy MMOs that seems like would become pointless if they allowed you to cover up what the gear actually looks like.

I'm not really hard line on my position though. I can understand why some people would want this but I personally don't really see a need for it in this game. Either way I would hope to see some heavy restrictions on it such as requiring that you physically obtain an item with the look before you can use it as a vanity item and maintain the level and class restrictions on the item being used in the vanity slot.

[Teuciont]

So if you speak out against the majority you get your posts deleted. Good to know.

[Zantetsuken]

The opposition to a toggle reveals what I've long thought is the true motivation is behind many who want a vanity system.

Although many proponents of the system claim to want to have the '"right" to dress how they want', what they REALLY want is a system where other players can't easily judge their power/progression by their gear. A widespread and enforced Vanity system creates a culture in the game where the players can easily hide their insecurities about their gear.

**BTW, I'm saying this as a player who doesn't have a single piece of Darklight, a Relic, or any insecurities either for that matter

Those who want it for fun, or just want to see their own char in w/e gear should have no problem whatsoever with a toggle.

[Kallera]

The opposition to a toggle reveals what I've long thought is the true motivation is behind many who want a vanity system.

Although many proponents of the system claim to want to have the '"right" to dress how they want', what they REALLY want is a system where other players can't easily judge their power/progression by their gear. A widespread and enforced Vanity system creates a culture in the game where the players can easily hide their insecurities about their gear. (BTW, I'm saying this as a player who doesn't have a single piece of Darklight, a Relic, or any insecurities either for that matter)

Those who want it for fun, or just want to see their own char in w/e gear should have no problem whatsoever with a toggle.

You can't even do this before the vanity system, as players don't always wear gear that is exactly their level. Do you look at my plate mail to see If I'm a PLD? What If I'm wearing Scale mail, or rainmaker's tunic, or a hempen acton for laughs? the only way to be totally accurate is through check.

and if you are concerned about your own party members, keep in mind that ARR displays the job of the person in your party, which should also be obvious from their main hand weapon.

[Velhart]

You can't even do this before the vanity system, as players don't always wear gear that is exactly their level. Do you look at my plate mail to see If I'm a PLD? What If I'm wearing Scale mail, or rainmaker's tunic, or a hempen acton for laughs? the only way to be totally accurate is through check.

and if you are concerned about your own party members, keep in mind that ARR displays the job of the person in your party, which should also be obvious from their main hand weapon.

It is pretty hard to not know what job someone is on. The only two right now you could mix up right now are BLM and WHM due to both using wands and staves.

[NoctisUmbra]

Personally I hope the vanity slots are limited by the same constraints the primary slots are as far as level/class/job.

Also, a toggle. Definitely a toggle.

I can understand wanting vanity slots so you can perhaps appear to be in full AF even if you have better gear in slots... but seeing reindeers running around will just be an enormous eyesore.

So the best solution I see is a mix between limiting what one can wear in vanity, and putting in a toggle so a player chooses whether they can see the vanity slots of others or themselves.

[Zantetsuken]

Personally I hope the vanity slots are limited by the same constraints the primary slots are as far as level/class/job.

Also, a toggle. Definitely a toggle.

I can understand wanting vanity slots so you can perhaps appear to be in full AF even if you have better gear in slots... but seeing reindeers running around will just be an enormous eyesore.

So the best solution I see is a mix between limiting what one can wear in vanity, and putting in a toggle so a player chooses whether they can see the vanity slots of others or themselves.

Why do you think SE would restrict you from wearing reindeer garb as vanity gear, when you can wear it right now (at any level, as any class/job) without the vanity system?

I am actually against any limits on a vanity system. If people want to dress up like reindeer while really wearing PLD AF, or if someone wants to mix WHM AF pants with Heavy Darksteel Armor, and PLD AF gloves, (while actually wearing full DRG AF) then they should have the "right"

-- just as long as the rest of us can toggle it.

[Shougun]

Why do you think SE would restrict you from wearing reindeer garb as vanity gear, when you can wear it right now (at any level, as any class/job) without the vanity system?

I am against any limits on a vanity system. If people want to dress up like reindeer while really wearing PLD AF, so be it -- just as long as we can toggle it.

. . . have you seen the stats on the reindeer? The reason people dont wear it into combat is

A. it gets damaged and they cant store it till repair lolz
B. it sucks ass

You add vanity system

A and B are gone, there will be more reindeers.

Even I would suggest a limiting factor as people will take screenshots of the ridiculousness of reindeers owning highly geared looking people and then it hits youtube and the outside goes "... people pay for that? pfft" and move on (just like the rest of the world does to WoW now). But there has to be a toggle, so much immersion is lost knowing items are not items and there is nothing solid about them. Hey look a relic weapon doing 2 damage.. -_- someone equipped a weathered gladius.. oh..